1909-s v.d.b

What do you think of this bad boy? Real? Found in an unsearched bag. Little bit off-center strike. Little wear.
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Looks okay to me. I would check the MM placement and confirm its location online. There's maybe 4 different die varieties known for the s-vdb so make sure yours matches on of them. Also...check the rim to make sure it isn't two separate coins stuck together!

 

did you weight it?? did you check it versus the red book or coinworld

 

Thanks for the help!

 

Yes, i weigh my coins and check the diameter of them before i post asking of its real or fake. Everything checks out. Thanks for the reply!

 

The MM looks right, but those pictures are too small to say anything for certain. Try looking here - http://www.cointalk.com/t78043/. Pay attention to the MM locations and the VDB.

 

That's quite the run you are on, first finding a '43 copper and now a VDB-S........

 

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Had this for years, its in my folder. Im posting all my rare finds, not claiming they r real, just hoping for some advice before i possibly lose money sending them in. I have thousands of coins... Most of my rare ones are graded

 

Will do, Thanks!

 

Had this for years, its in my folder. Im posting all my rare finds, not claiming they r real, just hoping for some advice before i possibly lose money sending them in. I have thousands of coins... Most of my rare ones are graded, there will be a few more posts like these including a 1916 d mercury dime and some over-date errors

 

IMO, this looks only slightly better than the 43 copper cent you found. This is a 1909, the first year the cent was minted; if genuine it would have a much better strike and details; even in its current condition. The E PLURIBUS UNUM looks mushy and the font lines aren't straight. The fields look bumpy and porous. To me both the 1909 S VDB and the 1943 Copper Cent that you found are both cast copied counterfeits.

-LTB

 

Oh and not to pile on, but how certain are you that the 1909 S VDB that you have in the slab is genuine? Because that is a CoinWorld slab that it's housed in. Collectors purchase those slabs for storage and display purposes; you can self slab any coin. They are not sealed, nor have they been graded by a recognized TPG.

-LTB

 

Im saying fake becuase of the E Pluribus on the reverse and the tip of the left ear or stalk of wheat.

 

Thanks for all of your responces, I by no means am certain if either coins are real, i strongly agree with you on the copper cent. Im going to send both of them in. Ive come across cast fakes before and when they are returned body bagged i melt them to make cheap bulluion bars so they are never confused as originals and because its illegal to own them! This is most likely whats gonna happen to that 1943 copper. As for the slabbed coin, it was in one of my family collections i talked about in the introductory page and i had it looked at by a NGC certified dealer. He told me he thought it was real, Ill be sending it in soon, i just got it from my brother.

 

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Not genuine IMO....nothing about it looks right.

 

Completely agree with the suspicion of the left wheat ear, the rim is also "smudged" next to it so i was thinking abnormal wear, crushing, etc. You can never know, sometimes coins are used as screwdrivers, think of anything and its probably been done haha, but yes i agree

 

Thanks for the responce, details?

 

Hopefully it wasn't the same NGC certified dealer that gave you the green light to submit the 1943 Copper Cent

My fingers are crossed for you...if the slabbed 1909 S VDB gets certified, you'll have one helluva nice addition to your collection.

Good luck!
-LTB