Ebay scams again.

I see this post has made a lot of controversy. I Have apologized to the seller for acting so childish. But, I never asked for the refund.

 

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Wow! your hard core. leave the kid alone, he said he made a mistake, he will learn a lesson from this. you dont need to act all tough and block the kid

 

Thank you very much! I didn't mean to neg anyone! I don't mean to harm anyone in anyway. I love to collect coins.

 

I didn't just stand there and want to do it. I hate giving negative feed back! Its the only time I ever gave negative feed back to anyone. Its was revised. Its positive now.

 

Its not a big deal. I would just drop it, and let the thread die. Keep collecting, dont let then get you down

 

That's crazy.
Neg over a less then $2 item without giving the seller a chance to fix anything.
Attitudes like that is what keeps me off of selling on Ebay.

 

Yes, but mistakes happen a lot on ebay with pictures not matching. 90% of the time the description is correct when the photo and description don't match. Either way, it's at least partially the OP's fault for not noticing the discrepancy and questioning it. I think it was just an honest mistake on the sellers part.

 

He deserved everything he got. I don't care if he is a kid or not, he needs to realize there are consequences in life. Do you sell on E-Bay? How would you feel if you lost your 20% E-Bay fee discount because some kid decided to neg you over a $1.20 coin? I can promise you this, every E-Bay seller who read this thread immediately thought, "I wish I knew his E-Bay username so that I can block him." Now they can all be tough guys as well.

 

I agree, blocking the kid is a bit over the top. He made a mistake as young people often do and he took his lumps here, that seems like enough. Plus he did correct the neg.

Now if someone here sells him something and the same thing happens, there might be cause for blocking.

 

I suggest you get some patience before ever going on ebay again. Either that or you have your parents sit there to------- nevermind on that idea. Take an ebay vacation for a few years. :thumb:

Just blocked his buxx, you never know. Besides that, I wish that once we hear someone is too young to have or use an ebay account we could do something about it. It does not benefit the hobby in the least to have some kid who doesn't follow the rules hang around and use a fraudulent ebay account to shoot the breeze with coin collectors he could stress out over a coin worth less than a couple of bucks. If I was a mod, I'd give him the boot. I'm just sayin'!!!!!

 

There seems to be more kids on cointalk than just the op of the blog.
You would have to wonder if its hard to be humble and perfect in every way.
We have all made mistakes and are better today because of them.
By saying he was wrong and changeing his feed back makes him more grownup than some of the post ive read.

 

Very true... he made a mistake, but corrected it. Still, I wonder why Ricky even has an eBay account, I believe you have to be 18. But fretboard's idea of having is parents assist is not all that bad. When I was buying coins back in the early 1950's, my grandmother would take me to the coin shop, and helped (a lot) with the $.

 

My first ebay lesson cost me $875

Seller sold me a pocket watch as solid 18k gold. Got the watch, took it apart to clean the movement and test the inside of the case for gold content, it turned out to be a plated case- and not a quality one at that, similar watches selling for about $100. Ebay sided with the seller because I was at fault for "Not allowing the item to be returned in the condition it was sold" because I took it apart temporarily before putting it right back together (watch was sold in terrible half broken condition anyway)... watches are designed to be taken apart. I offered to submit documentation from numerous professionals stating the false authenticity of the watch and even offered to buy the seller a replacement in better condition than the one they sold me. I spent tens of hours on the phone with ebay trying to explain to them their policies are morally and legally flawed (in my opinion) while being told over and over again I was at fault because somehow I altered their item and despite the fact it was a fake and blatantly lied about, nothing we can do. I lost my trust for people very quickly from this experience and learned there is no real justice on ebay a lot of the time.

This person has a retail antique store in upstate NY, and still pathetically calls themself an honest merchant. They even went on to tell others how I was a scam artist and fraud when they were the one that robbed me of all that money while laughing in my face to the bank (1/4 of my life savings at the time).

Don't trust ebay for ever making things right, they won't. I would love to sue this person but frankly the plane ticket to upstate NY from the west coast and the stress that literally made me physically sick made me just move on, I literally felt like a rape victim. I still think about up and filing a small claims case... if anyone here is a lawyer I would love to hear your thoughts. This was within the past 18 months.

Luckily, since then I have never made the same mistakes and have gone on recover much more than enough money to cover my losses. A VERY hard lesson learned as a young entrepreneur.

 

In the future, I recommend that you thoroughly read and understand the entire description on the seller's auction/BIN so that you know what you're bidding/buying.

FYI, his picture was real :thumb:

 

I kept my comment short and sweet.
If I wanted to make a really long post, I would have gotten into giving the seller a chance.
I just felt like the bottom line was contradicting info on the auction page, so after all was said and done, if nothing was worked out, the seller deserved at least a SNAD or Neg.

There is plenty you can do, yes...
I have only neg'd one seller in 15 years on eBay, and that was after they would not return phone calls and emails.
I hated giving the neg, and they didn't even contact me after I neg'd them.

So, my opinion is not crazy. I just didn't elaborate on all the things that could be done before it comes to that point.
Just that in the end, if he didn't make it right, he deserved it. It was not an acceptable error at best, misleading at worst.

 

Poor Decisions Have Consequences!

I believe you don't understand the economic consequences of an eBay negative feedback. Have you read some of the comments in this venue about seller expectations of perfect feedback regardless of auction presentation? In my specific case, a negative feedback would have amounted to an average of $200 a month income loss before I decided the token eBay rewards didn't compensate for the eBay expectations/insanity/volatility.

I would only sell on eBay today if I could develop a Cavalier attitude of expecting to refund without comment, after knowing that the buyer received an expensive TPG graded item, and will probably retain item possession while leaving unearned negative feedback as previously documented in their feedback.

I personally wouldn't provide a "loose cannon" with the ammunition to destroy a rating that generally takes years of appreciable effort in development to achieve Preferred Power Seller. If I knew the "moniker" used by an eBay buyer with unrealistic expectations who may be my potential buyer, I'd promptly block the individual rather than have a career instantly destroyed by a thoughtless act which can't be reversed by the "victim".

I've great respect for the eBay sellers who retain their perfect ratings, which generally require great patience and efforts. I personally would never leave the initial negative feedback, regardless of my personal expense, and it has been expensive in past times before the current eBay "buyer friendly" policies.

JMHO :thumb:

 

I did state that negs can cause loss of sales earlier in the thread and I am a very experienced ebay seller so I know how important this is to a seller. However, the issue was corrected so I don't see the need to block the kid.

 

You kind of messed up and over reacted. You did your best to make it right. Move on and ignore the more hateful comments in the thread.

 

The seller should NEVER reference a photo for details when he's showing a stock coin. That is deceptive. He gave a mixture of good detail and deceptive detail. It's very much like a half truth. It is an important detail when you list a coin. I suspect he used a template due to bulk offers and simply failed to make all the necessary corrections in his haste.

What I find most disturbing is everyone jumping all over the kid and giving the adult a pass.

 

When dealing on E-Bay, you don't know anything about the potential buyer or seller. The age of the person is irrelevant. Furthermore, I have no proof that the OP of this thread is a child. I am not defending the seller's use of file photos. In fact, I believe that anyone who uses file photos should automatically be deducted one star from the detailed seller rating for "Item as described". But to leave negative feedback for an item costing $1.20 without contacting the seller to resolve the problem is ridiculous. As a top rated seller, I would refund the money and tell the buyer to keep the coin in order to avoid the negative and preserve the top rated seller discount. IMO, both the buyer and seller in this case are a nightmare!