Mexican coin "error" on ebay (post-mint)

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  1. Numismat

    Numismat World coin enthusiast

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  3. silentnviolent

    silentnviolent accumulator--selling--make an offer I can't refuse

    I reported that squeeze job.
     
  4. rickmp

    rickmp Frequently flatulent.

    I'm thinking it's not a squeeze job. The strike opposite the impressed coin is strong and outside the impression the strike is weak. I'm thinking there was somehow another coin on top of the planchet when it was struck.
     
  5. silentnviolent

    silentnviolent accumulator--selling--make an offer I can't refuse

    well, for that kind of money I'd never buy something like that raw...
     
  6. Hobo

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    That one was probably "helped".
     
  7. Numismat

    Numismat World coin enthusiast

    But then the opposite side would be flat as a normal coin, it would not have a convex shape corresponding to the indent from the back-side.
     
  8. kaosleeroy108

    kaosleeroy108 The Mahayana Tea Shop & hobby center

    tooo tooo expensive.. not worth it
     
  9. rickmp

    rickmp Frequently flatulent.

    If it were a squeeze job. The large planchet was on the anvil die, not a flat surface, then the smaller coin was on top of the planchet. the hammer die came down on the and pushed the planchet into the anvil die causing the coin to partially strike up.
     
  10. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    I'd say it is real. If this had been a squeeze job then the rest of the coin away from the indent would still show a good strike. In this case a 50 centavo planchet entered the press and a struck 10 centavo lay on top of it. When the dies came together it forced the 10 centavo deep into the 50 centavo planchet causing it to start cupping up around the ten centavo. The extra thickness of two coins in the press kept the dies from coming together completely and they made minimal contact with the 50 centavo planchet leaving a very weak impression everywhere except directly below the 10 centavo where it is extremely sharp. On the side where the ten centavo was you have a full SHARP brockage with no traces of a previously struck 50 centavo. If you had tried to do that extreme a squeeze job out side the coining press the area below the ten centavo would be mushy at best or completely flattened while the rest of the coin would look good. It may have had help, but if it did it was in the mint.
     
  11. Hobo

    Hobo Squirrel Hater

    I agree 100%. That is why I said it was probably "helped".
     
  12. d.t.menace

    d.t.menace Member

    I wonder why the helper didn't make sure the 10 centavo was found along with the 50. It sure would have helped the value to have both of the coins.
     
  13. rascal

    rascal Well-Known Member

    yes this error coin is definately a real mint error and looks exactly like it should. I don't see how anyone could possibly think this was done post mint. the 10 centavos coin absorbed all of the pressure from the coin die.
     
  14. Numismat

    Numismat World coin enthusiast

    Thanks for your insight guys. It looked suspicious to me, also due to the cut marks near the left side of the edge on the first side, figured that was left over from a vice or something.
    I think we can still all agree that it's overpriced, even for a genuine error like this. =)
     
  15. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    If you mean the marks on the side with the head those are simply marks on the original planchet that were not wiped out by the strike. The surface of planchets are typically covered with nicks, scratches, cuts etc Just like bagmarks on coins from the rough handling and contact between pieces. Normally they are eradicated by the force of the strike, but in this case the extra thickness of metal between the dies kep them from coming into strong contact and the planchet marks remain.
     
  16. kaosleeroy108

    kaosleeroy108 The Mahayana Tea Shop & hobby center

    that had to be deliberately done.. at the time of mintin. if thats the case and that is just cool then
     
  17. kaosleeroy108

    kaosleeroy108 The Mahayana Tea Shop & hobby center

    id buy it if i didnt have to put a down payment on the car i cannot afford in the house i dont live in
     
  18. rascal

    rascal Well-Known Member

    just imagine if this was a U.S. 50 cent coin with a U.S. dime imprint in it . I have never seen or heard of one but I bet someone has one. a U.S. coin like this would probably be up in the hundreds of thousands of dollars.

    EDIT: I hope things will turn around and get better for you. It is hard to survive in our world today with these high prices on everything.
     
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