Strasbourg Thaler?

Bruxelles Thaler? Large 16th century coin.

Large coin, probable copper (judging by the colour). Similar coins (siver - made) were minted in Brussels in 16th century?
Inscriptions on:
Front

NVMMVS* REIP* ARGENTORATENSIS*
Back SOLVS* VIRTVTIS* FLOS* PERPETVVS:
Size approx 40 mm diameter, weight about 27 grams.
What is strange is that I found this coin only made in silver, not copper. Could be fake?
Looks​

Thanks for all feedback.

 

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First, let me correct you. This is not a coin but a medal. This piece has never had a paying value.
Second, this piece has all the signs of being a French medal (due to the presence of the "fleur de lis")
Third, the legend of "solius virtutis flos perpetuus" points to Lambertus Snoey, who has designed the family weapon and this legend for the family of Arend Van Buchell in 1607 (who lived in Belgium but in Antwerp)

However, I was not able to find this medal or any reference to this medal. I hope this helps you a little bit!

 

Dear Jupke, thanks for your feedback. I was influenced by items like this one: http://www.muenzauktion.com/crinon/item.php5?lang=en&id=223&catid=109 or http://www.bnu.fr/en/images/thaler-...iere-moitie-du-17e-siecle-piece-biface-43-mm- (I hope is ok to link to other websites - it's a closed auction, if not please remove link). Also all other references to this item were reffering to it as a coin, thaler in that case, worth 60 kreitzars. The origin is clearly Alsace (France or Germany because both rule the region) and more specific Strasbourg (the flower is a symbol of the city). Still looking for more info, it's a very nice piece and I would love to know more about it.

 

Hi ARGENTORATUM is the latin name for Strasbourg ( BTW, my birthplace :smile ) so it is consistent with the flower

 

I kick this thread again, I made some clearer pictures and hope for more details if someone have any ideas what this is. On third pic you can see how the two faces of the coin are "glued" together, maybe a fake?

 

Probably a cast coin

 

Quite possibly so. By the way, the lily (fleur de lis) side in post #5 is upside down.

 

Thanks for the info. What is a cast coin? And more important, what it worths?

 

It took 4 years for clearer pictures?

 

Cast but not a coin

Cast is a method of counterfeiting a metal item.

value? On eBay, Priceless.

Seriously? Probably nothing.

 

True about the coin part, but the part about cast is not true, China, Korea, and Japan minted copper cast coins before the 20th century.

 

Thanks for the info

 

Do you reckon it's worth the time and effort to fake such a common coin? Assuming that this one is fake.