Found something pretty awesome! Please help me out.

I found this 1963-D nickel y'day when searching through a few rolls from my bank. The roll was bank wrapped Could this be a wrong planchet error? The other 1963 was in one of the rolls as well. When I put in on my scales, it weighed 5.0 gr which I assume is standard for a jeffferson . I would love to know why this coins weighs less than half???

Thanks everyone in advance. I gotta admit I'm a little nervous to hear other's thoughts. So please be gentle.

~Kyle

 

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I don't have the slightest idea but it is a neat find, I think. I wonder if it could have been struck on a foreign metal. Like I said, I don't know but I'm sure one of the other members can give a reason as to why it is different.

 

Can you take a better picture of the rim? Im thinking wrong planchet, maybe dime?? If it is a dime planchet, then yoi have a 90% silver nickel which would be pretty neat to own!

 

yeah i'll try to get a bit closer. gimme just a min.....
thanks

 

Oh wow, certainly looks like a wrong planchet to me.

 

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Does it have the same sound as a silver dime when you drop it? Pretty cool

 

OH WOW! It absolutely does!! I even dropped a silver dime right after to make sure. Has anyone seen one like this before?
This is my first time posting a coin without immediately getting shot down! The Coin Gods finally shine down on me!

 

My gut reaction says PMD.

 

And let the "Let Down" begin.
Oh well, it was a fun 2 min while it lasted. Hehe!

 

Don't get me wrong... It's definitely intriguing... I can't say for sure it's PMD without seeing it in hand. You'll probably need to send it to either the grading companies or to one fo the error experts such as Mike Diamond which offer error attribution services.

 

How could a nickel be damaged in a way that makes it half the thickness and weight, and still have that much detail?

 

No way is that PMD. Way too much detail on a coin that appears to be half the normal thickness. The OP's scale shows the corect weight at 5g for a normal '63 Jeff so that shows the scale in good calibration. For the nickel in question, it it coming in spot on for a '63 silver dime planchet at 2.5 g. The nickel has a bit more diamater than a dime, but I think the lack of contact with the collar would explain that with it smooshing past the normal confines of the dime collar. In fact here is a certified example and the diamater looks correct.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NGC-1964-D-Nickel-Dime-Planchet-MS-61-/290282338488

I don't think the OP's coin would grade at 61 but it is worth sending in to get certified. If authentic and I think it is, the coin is worth a few bucks. Since the coin also passed the ring test by the OP, that further convinces me it is a genuine nickel on a dime planchet.

Great circ find.

Mike

Added: After looking again it does look like the diamater might be a tad too large, but maybe they don't all smoosh the same depending on where it sits and how much contact it has with the collar. Anyway, I still think it should be looked at and certifed. A specific gravity test should easily determine if it is silver or not. Also the silver ring is distinctive so if the OP thinks the ring test is good, I am still on board with the nickel on dime planchet.

 

Wow.....this is really intriuging!

 

I'm interested to see where this goes.

 

I am yet to send a coin off to get graded. But I've heard it can cost $30-$40+ to do so. If that's the case and the coin is only worth a few bucks, then it wouldn't be a smart move financially right?

 

The coin is too round. I have owned hundreds of off metals... I have never had a perfectly round one.

The letters near the edge also appear to be too sharp. On most all I have handled as the letters approach the edge they get weak and poorly struck. That is not the case here.

Those are just my observations from owning many examples of these. I do however hope I am wrong and I hope that you have found a genuine off metal. I am however about 99% sure it is PMD.

 

Its a tad early to jump to that conclusion, but you did make a few fine points.. this is rather interesting.

Depending on the the OP's experience, the ring test could mean little. A specific gravity test is excellent advice and the OP should make this his next step, especially if he is concerned about submission costs. As was mentioned earlier, sending to an error specialist is another consideration.

 

IMO If this coin is a nickel on a dime planchet, it'll be worth much, much more than $30 or $40.

 

Agreed, I jumped the gun a bit, I just do not understand PMD at this point. I also did assume a correct analysis of the ring test. I made that assumption since a silver dime really doesn't anything sound close to a nickel.
Of course half a nickel doesn't sound like a nickel either because of the reduced mass. So out of curiosity, I figured that half a nickel would sound similar to a 3 cent nickel. So I dug out an old 3 cent nickel and that sounded a bit different than a 5 cent nickel, but no where close to a silver dime. It just seems difficult to believe that the results were not analyzed correctly, but that very well may be the case.

Mike