PCI Coin Grading Service

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by rlowe, Jan 10, 2006.

  1. rarecoins71

    rarecoins71 New Member

    You guys do know that J.T Staton was the co author of the cherry pickers guide. so I try and buy up some the old morgan dollar they graded because they were so strick on them that i found that pcgs would give them the same grade or 1 higher.
     
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  3. rarecoins71

    rarecoins71 New Member

    ah David Lawrence did not know that I knew his wife folded up and sold everything but didn't know he was the one that bought it.
    He lives in North Carolina so I guess thats where the business went too.
    Thanks for the info guys thats really interesting
     
  4. redwin117

    redwin117 Junior Member

    REALLY? Here is some of my ICG Proof 70 DCAM.. 25c ICG PR70DCAM  ALASKA.jpg 25c ICG PR70DCAM - ARIZONA.jpg 25c ICG PR70DCAM  OKLAHOMA.jpg 25c ICG PR70DCAM  HAWAII.jpg Toned Pr70Dcam New Mexico 25c 2008S.jpg
     
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  6. Owle

    Owle Junior Member

    There is no reason to submit to anyone other than PCGS or NGC except for money saved or faster turnaround which are insignificant if you have coins over $100 or so. What market advantage would you have with an ANACS certified coin over the others? None whatsoever once it is in the slab.

    It costs me around $15 for economy coins at NGC and PCGS, same for ANACS. But the first two are much more in the way of companys. A real staff in every department. In comparison ANACS is just inferior.
     
  7. redwin117

    redwin117 Junior Member

    Additional information for you to know that PCI is not oldest grading company with regards of Plastic Holder Slab.

    FYI, slabbing coin start on 1984 by Accugrade/Asa AGG, then 1986 PGCS followed after the owner paid 100K to Mr.Alan Hager of Accugrade for his expertise and his PATENT then on the next year 1987 NGC is the Third slabbing coins.
     
  8. redwin117

    redwin117 Junior Member

    25c ICG PR70DCAM  OKLAHOMA-Close Up.jpg 25c ICG PR70DCAM  ARIZONA.jpg 25c ICG PR70DCAM ALASKA Close up.jpg 2008S 14 Coins Set ICG PR70DCAM.jpg 2008S AJ Prf 70 DCAM 1$ ICG.jpg REALLY? ICG in your Opinion is the Top One Grading Company? Can you judge the Photograpg graded by ICG as Proof70DCAM..Is that really Proof70DCAM?[​IMG] Originally Posted by rarecoins71 [​IMG]
    I'm not saying their the best but not one grading company is perfect on grading.
    when ANACS was bought out last year the new owner fired all the graders.
    I think ICG right now is the better of of the top 3 right now


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  9. brg5658

    brg5658 Supporter! Supporter

    I will occasionally buy PCI coins if I can see them in person. I would never buy one sight unseen unless they have a 100% return policy and professional quality images (which is basically never).
     
  10. Owle

    Owle Junior Member

    I don't have a problem with their grades, I have had a number of cracked out coins from PCI slabs get into PCGS equal or better slabs; but a notable coin that I bought from Apmex, a PCI MS64 $20 Liberty, that turned out to be a cunning counterfeit.
     
  11. rarecoins71

    rarecoins71 New Member

    Pci

    The ones from PCI I like to buy are in the green holders.
    They are the ones usually undergraded by atleast one grade had several the got the same grade or higher at PCGS and yeah I am a member of PCGS have about 100 coins to send them I just bought.
    got a nice deal on some matte finish still in the box nickles and kennedy matte finsh still in collectors boxes bought 4 of each.
    One other thing I bought 4 of that I have never seen before was a 1964 5 coin set of state coins,but they came in a velvet box and a cover.
    I've seen the special mint sets SMS but I never seen coins from the era come in a velvet case. it like a 1978 set but in the case and their all deep cameo.
    anyone have a ideal of what that set is?
     
  12. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    You can buy those cases and put any coins you want in them.
     
  13. longnine009

    longnine009 Darwin has to eat too. Supporter

    Condor, was PCI formally INS?
     
  14. rarecoins71

    rarecoins71 New Member

    mistakes with double dies,sometimes a hard lession


    well hopfully I didn't get a bad buy in those i plan on leaving them in the cases and sending them to PCGS.
    They all look like accented hair kennedy's and I hope that is true they are deffiently cameo or at the lease PL,but I'll let you guys know how they come out.
    I did get burt on a set of 1969-s pennies they were doubled in libert and the date so I sent them to PCGS and I learned a hard leassion that the famious double die pennies are hard to find they have to be doubled all the way around and I thought I had 2 of them wrong still have them in the case ms 65 and thats all they were.
     
  15. snaz

    snaz Registry fever



    I'm happy you're on these boards. :D
    How long ago was it called DGS, It feels like not even 2 years ago DGS was becoming a thing, and showing up with a nice reputation. I thought they had Rick Snow in grading as well.
     
  16. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Stanton worked for PCI, as far as I know he was never an owner.

    No they were two different companies. Before they went to the small size shells (shells and equipment purchased from HALLMARK) they used a larger photoslab and went by the name Photo-Certified Coin Institute. INS started operations in 1975 with photocertificates and went to a hard plastic photoslab in 1989. INS finally ceased operations in 1997.

    Owner Brian Beardsley died around June of 2007 just a few months after Stanton joined the firm. Beardsley's wife tried to run the company until around Nov when it finally closed its doors. The company assets were sold in February of 2008 and DGS opened around August of that year. DGS did their regular slabs but they also did a signature series with recognized experts identifying varieties and grading their series of expertise. This was the fourth attempt at a special signature series slab. PCI had attempted it twice, once under the original owner and once under Beardsley and his wife, and SEGS also did it briefly. Rick Snow may have been one of their expert graders, I don't know.

    DGS closed its doors on August 3rd, 2010. The company assets were sold in September of 2010 and the company was run as PCI for about a month. During this time green label 10 digit serial number slabs were produced and were being sold on eBay as the original green label 10 digit serial number from back in 1989. They were close but one of the fonts was wrong. PCI then closed again and the owner was looking for a new buyer but as far as I know it never re-sold.

    Be careful here there are three different green label holders. The originals with 10 digits in the serial numbers are good as are the 14 digit serial number slabs that followed. But the 9 digit serial numbered slabs have a reputation for being overgraded.
     
  17. longnine009

    longnine009 Darwin has to eat too. Supporter

  18. TheCoinGeezer

    TheCoinGeezer Senex Bombulum

    A while back I bought a lot of clad MS Roosies, included with the PCGS and NGC slabs were some 9 digit PCI slabs.
    I'm not a professional grader but I'd have to say that the coins were properly graded.
    I'd go so far as to say that one of them was actually undergraded.
     
  19. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna


    A proof-like proof? :rolleyes:
     
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