AMD? (At mint damage) or what's going on here? Scarface!

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by gbroke, May 27, 2012.

  1. gbroke

    gbroke Naturally Toned

    Check out these strange marks. This looks like it happened when the coin was struck. They do not appear to be your normal PMD, contact mark, or anything like that.
    Any thoughts? Just curious.



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  3. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Die gouges.
     
  4. Detecto92

    Detecto92 Well-Known Member

    Beautiful rim toning!
     
  5. gbroke

    gbroke Naturally Toned

    Ahh. Ok, thanks Doug.

    I like the placement of these gouges.
     
  6. gbroke

    gbroke Naturally Toned

    Thanks Detecto, I will post all 40+, from a Dansco, tonight. :thumb:
     
  7. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Gotta admit it's weird, never seen anything like it. But I can't think of anything else that could possibly cause marks like that.
     
  8. Hobo

    Hobo Squirrel Hater

    Die gouges? Really?! How exactly how do die gouges produce lines that are incused into the coin (instead of raised lines like all other die gouges)?And how do you explain the straight-line "die gouge" that marked Kennedy's cheek and nose but somehow missed the higher portion of the die between his cheek and nose (which is lower on the coin)? If it was really die gouges there should be some more examples with the exact same marks. This is PMD all the way.
     
  9. gbroke

    gbroke Naturally Toned

    I always assume PMD before anything else. These just look so 'perfect', I thought it was something that happened when it was struck. Is it possible there could have been some debris on the die?
    Either way, it's interesting looking.

    Here is an Ike dollar with neat looking damage.
    Looks like his ear was sewn back on.
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  10. longnine009

    longnine009 Darwin has to eat too. Supporter

    It looks likes die problem. Are the lines raised on the coin?
    It's kind a cool looking--JFK going punk/goth with piercings.
    Norma Jean would be impressed.

    You might try contacting CoinWorld Collectors
    Clearing House. Don't send it to them without
    contacting them first.
     
  11. gbroke

    gbroke Naturally Toned

    I actually don't know. I didn't even see them until I was editing the image. I will check it out tonight and take a few more shots with different lighting.
     
  12. longnine009

    longnine009 Darwin has to eat too. Supporter

    There's a line going through the mouth and turning
    down at nearly a right angle. And that part, the part
    turning down, looks raised. At least to my eyes anyway.
     
  13. Collect89

    Collect89 Coin Collector

    Hello gbroke,

    The marks look like simple nicks into the coin. Of course, if you check & find that they are raised, then you have something like what GDJMSP mentioned.

    Remember that when you have a deep nick, the displaced metal needs to go someplace & you may find some raised areas around the nick. (Much like the edges of an impact crater on the Moon).
     
  14. gbroke

    gbroke Naturally Toned

    I'll check it out. The lighting can also play tricks on the eyes. So we shall see!
     
  15. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    To me, the marks just behind the nose do look raised.
     
  16. gbroke

    gbroke Naturally Toned

    After further inspection, is is damage. The lighting was creating the illusion of raised lines.
     
  17. geekpryde

    geekpryde Husband and Father Moderator

    Looking forward to that. Maybe you can sell me the rejects, LOL.
     
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