Crappy eBay picture gamble time!

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Merc Crazy, May 23, 2012.

  1. Merc Crazy

    Merc Crazy Bumbling numismatic fool

    Not even gonna bother taking pics. Set is not fully uncirculated, and the nicest coin is probably MS64 or so. The '42-P isn't even a war nickel! Gonna contact the buyer and give him a couple options; let me return it for a full refund plus s&h for me, or I file SNAD.

    To go further into detail, the '44-D looks AU55ish, overdipped and improperly rinsed. The '45-P is a slider. The '45-S as well.
     
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  3. jloring

    jloring Senior Citizen

    Ouch. Looks like most of us were fooled by the photo...
     
  4. Merc Crazy

    Merc Crazy Bumbling numismatic fool

    '44-D is clearly cleaned under a loupe. Hairlined to crap and back. Definitely filing SNAD if he doesn't offer me a full refund.
     
  5. Merc Crazy

    Merc Crazy Bumbling numismatic fool

    And the seller has agreed to refund me in full. :)
     
  6. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    But, initially, you took a chance at landing a big fish based on crappy photos. Now you find that the coins are indeed as crappy as the photos. You took a chance and no score. What if the coins proved to be better than the photos? Would you have filed a SNAD? If it were me I'd have taken my lumps.......
     
  7. gbroke

    gbroke Naturally Toned

    Now that is disappointing. Hopefully it will work out for you painlessly.
     
  8. bigjpst

    bigjpst Well-Known Member

    This. And not only that, you used feedback extortion to get him to change his posted return policy. Nice
     
  9. Merc Crazy

    Merc Crazy Bumbling numismatic fool

    #1; I was expecting 11 war nickels. I got 10.
    #2; I was expecting 11 uncirculated war nickels. I only received 7 uncirculated war nickels.
    #3; If I had received 11 MS62 war nickels, I would have shrugged, thrown them in my dansco, and chalked it up as a lesson learned.
    #4; If I had recieved 11 MS67FS war nickels, I would have smiled and counted my blessings.

    I did not. I said nothing regarding feedback. I simply stated that I would file a SNAD if he opted not to take a return since I did not receive what was described. I cannot believe that I am forced to defend myself in a situation where a seller did not deliver on what was promised. It's like walking into Best Buy, paying for a 52" TV, and getting a 42" instead. Don't tell me you wouldn't expect them to give you a refund.
     
  10. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    As a seller on E-Bay, I tend to side with the E-Bay seller more than most. I can't side with the seller in this scenario for the reasons Larry listed above. However, I would not have gambled on that item unless it had a return policy. I think this scenario actually supports why top rated sellers must offer a 14 day return policy by E-Bay.
     
  11. jloring

    jloring Senior Citizen

    I think a lot depends on the seller's knowledge of coins... in this case, was the seller a novice or was he "pro"? To the untrained eye, all of the coins might look "uncirculated". Once in awhile you'll find auctions where the seller doesn't specialize in coins, but merely lists them along with other unrelated items he picked up at a garage sale or flea market. In that case, good photos are a must (which this particular auction was lacking). I'm leaning towards the seller having little or no knowledge of coins. But you know Merc, you did say "gamble" in your thread title, and when you gamble, sometimes you win and sometimes you lose. Still, you have the right to return an item if it qualifies as SNAD, and in this case it appears that it does. Anyway, now that you've seen the coins, what do you think a good price would have been (for someone like me who is not as grade conscious)?
     
  12. omahaorange

    omahaorange Active Member

    Not really a gamble when you can buy it, see it hand, and return it if it's not to your liking, is it?
     
  13. jloring

    jloring Senior Citizen

    True... as eBay's policies heavily favor the buyer.
     
  14. BUncirculated

    BUncirculated Well-Known Member

    +1
     
  15. Merc Crazy

    Merc Crazy Bumbling numismatic fool

    $45-$50 is probably a more accurate value. Like I said, if they had all been UNC war nicks, I would have kept it and threw them in my dansco. The guy is selling them for his grandfather, I guess, or at least that's what he said. I'm inclined to believe him. He seems to know what he's doing, though, he was familiar with the terms I was using and whatnot.
     
  16. bigjpst

    bigjpst Well-Known Member

    I am not suggesting that you shouldn't have returned the items as not described. What I was responding to was the threat of filing a claim against him had he not covered your return postage. His listing says that he will return for 14 days For any reason buyer pays return shipping If you knew you were gambling with crappy pics, IMO you should have paid the return shipping, instead of threatening him. Making the seller come out of pocket for your gamble was what irked me.
     
  17. Merc Crazy

    Merc Crazy Bumbling numismatic fool

    He was polite enough about the whole thing that I offered to eat the cost of return shipping, if it makes you feel better.
     
  18. tonedcoins

    tonedcoins New Member

  19. bigjpst

    bigjpst Well-Known Member

    Now I'll be able to sleep at night, thank you:rolleyes:
     
  20. vdbpenny1995

    vdbpenny1995 Well-Known Member

    I wouldnt side with Merc Crazy BUT he only got 10 WAR NICKELS where it said 11 war nickels so he is completely right IMO.
     
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