Indian Head Proofs in MS holders

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by RedRaider, May 25, 2012.

  1. RedRaider

    RedRaider Well-Known Member

    I have a few IHCs that I think might be proofs that are in MS NGC holders. Sometimes these are tough to tell apart, but one of them (1880 MS63BN) I have attributed the obverse to Snow's PF-3 (Repunched 1). In his attribution guide, he states that there are no known Circulation strikes for this variety.

    Does anyone else have an example of a proof cent that has been graded as MS? I will get some pics up later.
     
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  3. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    I have heard of it happening.

    However, if you have a (possibly) unique unc, that would be even better
     
  4. RedRaider

    RedRaider Well-Known Member

    Here are a few pics......another thing Richard Snow references in his guide is there is are purple toned proofs that are often designated in a BN holder.....this coin is bright purple.

    It does not have cameo fields though which is throwing me off!

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  5. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    The rims do not look like a proof.


    How reflective are the surfaces?
     
  6. RedRaider

    RedRaider Well-Known Member

    not reflective at all....I have IHC proofs that are graded, and the surfaces don't look the same.

    There is a wide range of reflectivity on IHC proofs and the toning might be hiding the surface reflectivity. Maybe its a circ strike, which would be cool!
     
  7. Hobo

    Hobo Squirrel Hater

    I agree - the rims look nothing like a Proof.
     
  8. robec

    robec Junior Member

    Bingo. Not a proof. Rims are not square and sharp.
     
  9. RedRaider

    RedRaider Well-Known Member

    I am actually glad its not a proof now.....If this is the only known repunched date using the same die as Snow's PF-3, this could be scarcer than the proof itself!

    Snow had a 2* rating on the proof. Thanks for the input!
     
  10. Stang1968

    Stang1968 Member

    You might want to send it in to him for examination. If it is a new variety, I'm sure he'd love to attribute it and he'd probably put his "eagle eye" sticker on it if it meets the grade, which I think is kind of like CAC.
     
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