What would cause this toning on a nickel.

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Detecto92, May 22, 2012.

  1. gbroke

    gbroke Naturally Toned

    Don't be such a snob Paul :)
    I'm in on the "like this kind" of toning group!
     
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  3. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    Snobbery would dictate posting a coin with attractive toning, like this one.

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  4. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    ...Eye of the beholder man. Personally I prefer yours as well, but like in art different tastes prevail.
     
  5. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    I am working on my snobbery here even though it is a little OT.
     
  6. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    Fair enough, snob away. :)

    Btw Doug you could be right about the blue folders. I just remember this toning in old collections and groups fairly often. That could be the cause. I have a bag of nickels a dealer put away for me at face, (I may have given him a few bucks), in the 80's as a courtesy, (just non-silver Jeffs without 38ds, 39ds, and 50d, from groups and folders that walked through the door), that were only ever worth face back then. I will be a man and admit I practiced dipping on these very coins like this. They were only worth face value, so I thought no harm done. Btw this toning is very light, it comes off much easier than the toning Gbroke posted.

    I know, heresy dipping away toned Jeff's. Sorry Paul, but if it helps it was OP's kind of toning mainly, not like yours, (though there could have been a couple unfortunately). In my defense toning was not really valued then, and I was trying to learn how and when to dip in order to save more valuable coins.
     
  7. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    I am not wholly opposed to dipping coins, no heresy in my view.
     
  8. Leadfoot

    Leadfoot there is no spoon

    Not discounting your experience, but wouldn't improper alloy mix lead to the same thing? Even more confusing to me with your explanation is that the toning goes through the high and low points of the coin and album paper would not be able to reach the recesses, I wouldn't think.

    More to the point, the reason I say this is because I've seen this type of mottled toning on mint set coins that have never seen the inside of a Whitman, and the direction is always the same (actually opposite) on both sides presumably showing, I always thought, the direction the planchets were rolled out.

    Therefore, I maintain this toning pattern is related to an improper alloy mix -- just like copper woddies -- rather than post-mint storage conditions.

    Respectfully...Mike
     
  9. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    It's certainly possible that in some cases it's due to a bad alloy mix. I'm merely recounting what I have seen with my own eyes. As for the paper not touching the low spots - it doesn't always need to because as you know, toning spreads even when paper/cardboard only touches certain spots. Think of regular album toning. The only place the coin is ever touched by paper is on the edge, and look what happens to them.

    Again, not doubting a bad alloy mix could be the cause in some cases. But look at one of those old blue folders sometime. The paper wrinkles, and it tends to wrinkle in the same direction - parallel lines in other words. So when the lines are running this direction - / - on the rev side of the 3rd page. When you fold that page over/closed those lines are now running this direction - \. ( This - / - and this - \ - being used for illustrative purposes )



    As I have said, maybe so. But that does not mean that it would be the only cause. Now does it ?
     
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