The Faceless Wheat Cent (Mint Issue) ?

Hi All,
Came upon this wheat cent and not sure if it's PMD or a strike error. So obviously I am showing it here to
try to find out. I can see a very faint outline of Lincoln. The face of the coin is as smooth as a blank.
How would you ever determine year/grade or value on this type of coin? Sending two pic's of the front
for comparison...Thanks, Pat

 

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I would guess its post mint damage. Have you weighed it? If it weighs less than 3.11 grams I'd say post mint for sure

 

Unfortunatly my scale only weighs in whole grams (postal). It dose tip the scales at a whopping 3 grams, I weighed a couple of other wheat cents and they are 3
grams also. I will have it weighed more accuratly and let you know the results

 

I believe its impossible to only have one side engraved making it definitely PMD.
My guess from looking at it was an acid dip with the reverse laying on the bottom of the cup leaving it less susceptible to corrosion.

 

I see the shadowing of Lincoln, so I am going to say PMD.

 

with the rim showing as raised on the reverse and no rim showing on the obverse this has to be post mint damage. the obverse has been ground and polished.

 

Thanks all, judging buy how nice the reverse side looks this could have been a really
nice wheat cent.

 

From looking at your photos I think it may be possible for you to have a good error coin here. I know photos can make a coin look different but from what I can see the blank side looks to have a slight cup or bowl shape. if this is the way this coin really is then it has not been ground off.

it would have been possible for this coin to have been struck and remained stuck to the reverse die then another blank planchet entered the coining chamber and got struck into the already struck obverse side of your coin and wiped away all of the coins obv. design.

If someone did grind off this much metal with a grinder it definitely would have removed at least a whole gram of weight off it .

edit: just thought of another possibility . maybe your cent coin was struck thru a early stage die cap.

 

Thanks for the insite rascal, perhaps there's a glimmer of hope for this coin. I will try to take a couple of more clearer pic's for all to look at

 

Rascal
you can't "upset" only one side of a rim. If the rim is missing on one side only it is because the other side has been removed.

Richard

 

Good job, Rascal. Always providing a false sense of hope.

 

I said I would never reply to another one of your post but I just can not keep ignoring them. could you please show me one thread where I provided someone a false sense of hope? I always try to be helpful to other folks on here expessialy the folks that are new to error or variety coins.

OH by the way aren't you the one that told someone their 1200.00 coin " the cent struck on a struck dime " was worthless and I told them better or was this someone else ??????? I may have to go back and find out ........

 

Didn't happen. Had to have been someone else.

 

In a way you are right and in another way you are wrong. when a blank enters the upset mill it get's it's raised up rim on both sides and then it becomes a planchet. when something get's between the planchet and the coin die like say another planchet this pushed the upset rim down when the coin die strikes it. go look at a few struck thru die cap coins and I bet you can find a few without a raised rim. on the uniface coins all of them don't have a raised rim .

when two planchets enters the coining chamber at the same time this creates two uniface coins that are completely blank and totally smooth on one side.

 

Ok I believe you right , I keep forgetting who did that.

 

here's a link that may be helpful to some of you.

http://minterrornews.com/priceguideuniface.html

 

Not quite as smooth as the OP.

 

I know that , it is because the Canadian coin was struck thru a die cap and not a blank planchet. It appears to me that the op's coin was struck then struck again thru a new planchet. I don't have the coin in hand and am just going by what I can see in the photo.

 

We can agree that its lincoln saveing face.

 

So now it's a double struck coin?