Japanese Sen Question

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by jlblonde, Jan 17, 2012.

  1. jlblonde

    jlblonde Señor Member

    I'm having trouble finding this date:

    1. Is the year 12 on this coin?

    2. Why is it not listed in my Krause book? Could it be in an older version?

    3. Does this coin exist?

    4. Is it a fake?

    Japan
    1 Sen
    Yr. 12, 1879?
    Y #17.1 or y #17.2
    Ruler: Meiji

    Note: Y #17.1 ends at year 10, 1877
    Y #17.2 begins at year 13, 1880


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  3. gxseries

    gxseries Coin Collector

    You are reading it the wrong way - it's Meiji 20.
     
  4. jlblonde

    jlblonde Señor Member

    Awesome?!

    I really need to stop drinking that cheap box wine.

    Thank You
     
  5. fretboard

    fretboard Defender of Old Coinage!

    Oh and I thought the box stuff is the expensive one. :D
     
  6. hontonai

    hontonai Registered Contrarian

    It is, if you look under the correct date.
    Yup.
    I never say yea or nay based solely on a picture, but it looks pretty good, and the early Meiji coppers are not frequently counterfeited.

    Note the characters at both ends of the date - The two on the right are "Meiji", and the one on the left is "nen", or "year". A Japanese date is always written with the two-character era name followed by the digits and ending with "nen". Your 1887 coin is dated in the traditional right-to-left direction. In the mid-20th Century Japan changed directions and adopted the Western left-to-right, but you can always read a date by starting with the era name and ending with the year designator.
     
  7. landomata

    landomata New Member

    Hello everybody !
    Recently I bought this 50 sen coin . Is it real or fake ? Any help would be appreciated. Thank you .
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  8. hontonai

    hontonai Registered Contrarian

    Wonderful condition for a 1905 (Meiji 38).

    Part of what I said about the coin posted originally applies to your coin as well.
    However, even the minor silver coins have been "duplicated" by the Chinese forgers, so an in hand inspection would be needed for certainty.

    In the condition shown, if genuine it's worth somewhere in the $3-400 range.
     
  9. gxseries

    gxseries Coin Collector

    I don't like it. What is the weight of it?

    And also if you are starting a different discussion, please start a new topic instead of continuing off from an old topic that has little relevence.
     
  10. Collector1966

    Collector1966 Senior Member

    What you have is the most common date and variety of the 1873-1905 type. You'll notice that the twig on the bottom left side of the wreath looks like it had been cut from the bottom upward. That is called "sitakiri" in Japanese and in the condition that it appears to be, and assuming it's real, it lists for around 2000 yen ($25) in the 2012 Catalog of Japanese Coins and Bank Notes.

     
  11. landomata

    landomata New Member

    Hello again !
    First - thank you hontonai, gxseries, Collector1966.
    Second: I weighed the coin and it has 9.8 grams. Then I saw it is magnetic coin.
    I am very dissapointed. I thought it was real.
    From now I always carry a magnet with me :(
     
  12. hontonai

    hontonai Registered Contrarian

    Don't forget, there are many nickel and stainless steel coins out there, and they are magnetic.
     
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