2003 Kennedy Silver Proof Strike thru?

Discussion in 'What's it Worth' started by barbnjason, May 12, 2012.

  1. barbnjason

    barbnjason Member

    2003 Kennedy Silver Proof Strike through? Updated.

    Found this in my 2003 U.S. Mint Silver Proof Set the other day. Photos are hard to get with the coin still in the lens, but the coin has two problems.

    First and most obvious is from the R to the T there is a reeded edge strike through.
    Second is from the E to the R the reeds are raised above the rim.

    Worth anymore of worthless?


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  3. BUncirculated

    BUncirculated Well-Known Member

    From those pics, it looks more like it's on the lens rather than the coin.

    If you could shoot this straight on instead of at an angel, and you can open those lenses fairly easy, and just take the top of the lens off and shoot it, there would be no glare from the holder.
     
  4. barbnjason

    barbnjason Member

    Thanks for your reply, I was not sure how hard it would be to take the lens off but it was farily easy.
    These shots are much clearer with your suggestions.

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  5. BUncirculated

    BUncirculated Well-Known Member

    Much better pics thank you.

    From what I can see, it does appear to be a strike thru; however, I am not highly knowledgeable of these as others here at CT are.

    What I can tell you is any premium for this would depend on how often this occurs at the Mint, and how rare this type is as well.

    I'll digress to those more knowledgeable of this on those points.
     
  6. hrhomer

    hrhomer Member

    Hmmm... Something is definitely going on there. Not sure what, but nice eye!

    Joe
     
  7. Lon Chaney

    Lon Chaney Well-Known Member

    Yes, it is.

    Just kidding, not sure what you're asking in that question.

    It does look like a mark from a reeded edge of another coin, but I'm not sure how it would be caused (other than sloppiness at the mint, which could be the answer).
     
  8. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    They don't look to be from a reeded edge to me. If I didn't know better, I'd say they were denticles. But I have no idea how they could have gotten on the planchet.

    Regardless, on a Proof, those marks are very unusual. I'd send the coin in to a TPG or one of the error guys if it was me. Maybe Mike Diamond, he's a member here on the forum.
     
  9. d.t.menace

    d.t.menace Member

    My WAG is that maybe the planchet was sitting partially on top of the collar on the first strike and a thin part of the planchet was sheared off. This strip then fell onto the coin and was struck into it on the second strike.
    I agree with GD, I'd send it in too.
     
  10. barbnjason

    barbnjason Member

    I think that has been the consensus theory so far d.t.menace.

    In this image you can see the finned rim "fence" that is left on the coin and the part that fell onto the coin face fills the gap in the fence perfectly.
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    Also posted this in the Error forum also here
    http://www.cointalk.com/t206205/

    Going to be taking it to a PCGS dealer sometime in the next couple of days.
     
  11. barbnjason

    barbnjason Member

    Sorry I was tired when I typed that.

    My question was is this going to make the coin worth any more or worth less.

    As in a Error or just damage.
     
  12. Searcher64

    Searcher64 Member

    It looks like to me, that during production, that the reed die, has had a build up of metal, and has fallen off the die and made it's way on to a coin. Yes, I feel it is a strike through. Nice find, what can you say about quality control at the mint.
     
  13. BUncirculated

    BUncirculated Well-Known Member

    It's not damage as this occurred during the minting process, and as far as worth goes, it depends on how regular this happens at the Mint during production as to how much of a premium it will command.
     
  14. coinman0456

    coinman0456 Coin Collector

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  15. barbnjason

    barbnjason Member

    Okay here is the deal, Took it to two dealers today both listed on PCGS website and neither one of them really looked at the coin. On glanced at it with a hand loop while it was still in the lens and said it's probably worth what I paid for it. That's not helpful at all, I bought it from the mint in 2003 for like $30. They both just said if you want a value just throw it up on ebay as is. Kind of disheartening to be put off like this by a so called professorial

    So any thoughts on this, should I try and get an opinion from someone who cares, and how do I find this person or do I just toss it on ebay as is with some good photographs?

    Read more: http://www.cointalk.com/t206205/#ixzz1utpV4nPR
     
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