Grade this chief.

Can you scan it? It would help to see everything
at the same time.

 

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Huh?

 

Sorry Detecto, but that coin has wear all over it. It is not a weak strike. XF 40 for me plus possible rim damage at 10:00.

Mike

 

Would it be possible for a XF coin to have this kind of luster?

 

An XF coin can still have traces of the luster present, as yours does.

 

A flat bed scanner. The thingys that allow you
lighten images.

 

Numismatic wive's tale perpetuated by newspapers around the time they were about to discontinue the coin. Barber commented on it, saying there were multiple examples of this type of design done by Longacre on pattern coins long before his daughter was ever born.

 

I think in any case it's neither an Indian nor a chief. I think it's considered to be Lady Liberty with a headdress on?

 

The coin is NO better than choice VF on details alone (not even touching the other issues). No nonsense about weak strike or PHOTOS of other coins. Drop this BU roll garbage. Look at the one you have. See how the ribbon has been WORN down to be flat with the hair curl? Can you see the clear wear on the feather tips and forehead?

Do you even know what luster is? Seriously? There is no shame if you do not, but just be honest for once.

RB huh? Do you know what "Deller's" is?

What are you talking about? From one post to the next you argue a coin is AU because of color and its "cartwheel luster" yet now the excuses come out and all of a sudden you think it was doctored? No surprise here.

Here is a link for you.. do yourself a favor and read instead of making stuff up.


http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...lK2tDA&usg=AFQjCNHbgzs-bgq48djiUkmL5FFPAN4RYA

 

Yep. I have seen VF30 still have noticable luster depending on how it was stored.

Detecto, no offense meant, but I would seriously get an ANA book, grade 5 or 6 bags of nickels, before I bought another coin. Also, it appears you are not good at telling the difference between soft strike and wear, so I want you to tell yourself you will NEVER buy a "soft strike" coin again EVER!

Seriously, "soft strike" is one of the oldest cons dealers have to get people to overpay. The moment you hear "soft strike" tell the dealer you DO NOT buy "soft strike" coins, you are forbidden, so please show you full strike coins only. I equate "soft strike" to used car dealers telling you an 85 year old great granny owned the car. Yes, on a very rare occasion it may be true, but its usually just a lie. Besides, why do you want to own an inferior quality coin anyway? "Soft strike" just means its a poor quality coin.

Just trying to help man, we all are.

Chris

 

Right you are!!!

 

Thanks for the confirmation!

 

Damaged, cleaned. Net VF.

 

I am sort of thinking along the same lines as Books. Luster is misunderstood by many. For example, many folks think a DMPL Morgan has a lot of luster, but in fact, it usually has very little luster.
Shiny is not equal to luster.

A polished coin may also be shiny, but it has no luster.

I am not seeing the luster in the coin. Are you certain it is there?

Mike

 

Well, I didn't pick up on the 'damage' but my initial thoughts were VF.......

 

Detecto the good news is you get burned but you
keep coming back. That's a good sign that your a
collector at heart and not just an investor.

Please keep in mind it doesn't matter why a coin
looks the way it does. Whether it's weak strike,
worn dies actual wear or a combination. It will
be what it looks like.

 

Yup. It may not have been the best buy, but I like it...and that's all that matters. I've never seen a Indian head "in the wild" with that kind of luster present.

 

As long as you like it man, its just $15. Most of us are simply trying to help a younger collector learn the ropes, and not get taken as badly as we were when we were first starting out is all. Just a bunch of old men trying to teach the younger collectors a thing or two. I hope you take our comments in that vein Detecto.

Chris