I took a chance for $15. The images are not the best, and are dark. I had to dim them down to show detail. Luster is brighter in real life.
It is hard to grade well Detecto. If you could lighten them up some, it would be easier to details and such. Could go low BU, but the images show enough for AU.
Coin shows signs of wear. Ribbon is clearly melded with the curl - choice VF. Honestly, Detecto... $15? Better start a thread and file a claim against the unscrupulous dealer who sold it to you. "Chief"?? Tactless.
This coin is not a VF. There is way too much luster left. Person I bought it from got it out of a BU roll. I'm going with a weak strike. The kind of luster present would not simply exist in a AU coin. Look at all the slabbed Au's. They get the brown grade. This coin is red-brown.
While I agree that this is a RB coin, I think it will grade AU58 due to the weak obverse strike and the marks on the face/neck. The reverse shows a full strike and if just grading the reverse, I would call it MS, but TPG's will most likely put it in a high AU to low MS slab. I am concerned about the color too....might come back cleaned.
Weak strike or not, it will be called what it looks like and it looks circulated. The reverse rim on the first image looks to be merging with the denticles. Is that also from weak strike?
On the reverse image I see a flattened and spreading rim from 1:00-3:00. How can that be Unc? Granted it could be a 50 rather than my 40 but I took it down two grades for calling it a chief.
Doesn't look even close to BU to me. Besides the ribbon merging with the hair, it even looks like some wear on the beads, but it may just be the terrible photo. Try to get a decent picture of it.
I was thinking maybe someone "doctored it" but when you dip, you loose that "cartwheel luster". It's been out of a BU roll for at least 50 years. Guy who I bought it from (and know well) said he got it from a old collection, and it was in a BU roll. Coins with this kind of toning are a bear to photograph. I will try doing some upclose photos with my loupe.