I try to buy toned coins at shows but the dealers ask for a crazy premium fee im looking to shop on ebay now i have my eye on a 1883 indian coin that is outstanding in purple color, sold under the user on ebay vere7777 .i will be registering on ebay today on ebay to get a shot at it how do i offer to buy it and ask him to cancel the auction and sell to me or how much should be my max bet im confused on how much to bid because there are over 19 bidders also can it be upgraded if submitted to ngc as a proof66 with a star that would be great! thank you all
A few things to remember... You don't write a Ebay seller and ask them to pull the item and sell it to you....that will get you kicked off ebay fast.... The thing to do is decided what your highest price is and place a bid on the item and hope you win it. I think at this time there are over 25 bid's... If you have ever been to a live auction then this type of stuff isn't new to you....you just have to outbid the other bidders..... To know if it would upgrade...you would have to have the coin in hand and then its only a chance that NGC will either upgrade it or leave it at the same grade or lower the grade. Speedy
There are too many spots on the reverse to get a 66* grade from NGC. I don't think they will upgrade it!!
I've been lucky to handle a couple dozen toned proof Indians over the past few years. Almost all of them I submitted to NGC and most graded PF65-PF67. There is no way the coin pictured would upgrade to PF66 at NGC. While NGC is a tiny bit looser on toned Indians (i.e. they take into account the eye appeal a little more than PCGS), the spots on the reverse would keep it out of a PF66 slab almost certainly. In fact, it's probably lucky to be in a PF65 slab. Now, not to pee in your corn flakes, but... Personally, I don't care for the coin. The spots are major distractions and the color, while nice, can be found a lot better and fuller. I'd rather have a coin that was toned more than this. Just my personal preference... The prices for them have really gone up over the past year. However, the strong buyers of these look for a combination of color and quality. This coin lacks both. The color is not going to be as electric in person and the reverse spots are a killer. The reverse also lacks a lot of color. BTW, this is one of the more common date Indians that are found with color. As for your bid, my guess is this coin should sell in the low $525 area, but you never know with eBay. That's about what I would have priced it at. A solid PF65 with much better color of this date is probably a $700-$850 coin. Personally, I'd rather have either of the following coins than the one you're looking at: PURPLE BLUE TONED PROOF 1888 Indian Cent NGC PF 64 RB 1887 NGC PF65RB Colorful Toned Indian 1c Both those sellers have more toned Indians listed right now. I've done business with both sellers and you can fully trust them. One might even be a member here?
