fake morgans on CL?

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  1. riff

    riff I ain't got time to bleed

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  3. mikem2000

    mikem2000 Lost Cause

    What do you see that is wrong with the T's?
    Here is an authentic 1879 reverse in MS 63

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  4. Detecto92

    Detecto92 Well-Known Member

    Both dollars have the same texture and color.
    Both dollars have the same amount of wear.
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  5. riff

    riff I ain't got time to bleed

    the serifs on the T's are completely different. they are coming down straight, instead of the inside edge of the serif being angled.
     
  6. riff

    riff I ain't got time to bleed

    yup. odd, isnt it? someone is going to be angry.
     
  7. mikem2000

    mikem2000 Lost Cause

    Agreed,

    The Morgan's are bogus........

    Mike
     
  8. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    Interesting how the "counterfeiter" was careful enough to note the design change for 1921, isn't it?
     
  9. iGradeMS70

    iGradeMS70 AKA BustHalfBrian

    To be totally honest, I believe both coins to be authentic. Sure, they've been rubbed at some point throughout history, but nothing screams "fake!" to me.

    Design elements are accurate and well-formed. Serifs look correct/semetric. Details are strong.

    ...Or am I just goin' nuts? ;)

    -Brian
     
  10. Kirkuleez

    Kirkuleez 80 proof

    Why would anyone bother counterfeiting common coins? If you are going to do it, go for the gusto. I'm looking for a nice 1794 silver plug if anyone knows a good counterfeiter. Having it in a counterfeit PCGS slab would be a bonus.
     
  11. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna


    So much for subtlety...
     
  12. Randy_K

    Randy_K Love them coins...

    You can get a complete set of fake made-in-China Morgan dollars with all dates and mint marks. Here's one manufacturer in China - check out the variety of coins available!
    http://www.jinghuashei.com/html/category/class_390.html

    The law in China says that no replicas of Chinese coinage dated 1949 or later can be made. That's it. So anything else can legally be manufactured under Chinese law.
     
  13. riff

    riff I ain't got time to bleed

    you are going nuts. you think those serifs on the t's look right? they look nothing like ANY of the morgan dollars i own.
     
  14. Collect89

    Collect89 Coin Collector

    These are two counterfeits that I found in China 10 or 20 years ago. They are intended to fool tourists & the bullion trade.

    This pair is a good training tool. Note the repeating depressions found on both coins. It is not possible for two genuine coins to have the same contact mark in precisely the same location. In this case, the host coin had the contact mark & it repeated on every fake coin.
     

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  15. Randy_K

    Randy_K Love them coins...

    Here is a "1879-CC" Morgan dollar recently manufactured in China. It is properly marked "Copy" but is available without that mark too. The reeding is clean and regular.
    1879-CC  Morgan.jpg
     
  16. fretboard

    fretboard Defender of Old Coinage!

    Calling something fake by pics is difficult, sometimes it's obvious and sometimes it's not. I don't see anything wrong with the CL sellers coin. jmho
     
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