1916 1 kopek

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by rexesq, Jul 6, 2006.

  1. rexesq

    rexesq Senior Member

    I recently came across a coin, which appears to be from Russia, from the year before the revolution. The only writing that I have been able to translate on the coin is the '1 Kopek' marking, and the only reason I know what the word 'kopek' looks like in Russian, is because I have a couple of them from 1998. I was just wondering, first of all, if this coin is real, and secondly, if it holds much value...being from before the Russian revolution and all. It is in pretty poor condition, many scratches and the like. The center of the coin concaves a bit, as if it was smashed or something. Here are two pictures, I can take some closer, more detailed ones if needed.
     

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  3. gxseries

    gxseries Coin Collector

    Yes it's definately Russian and genuine. But in that grade, perhaps I would just expect it to be worth a few cents to probably a quarter or so. Sorry.

    You can see examples of other Russian coins in my omnicoin.
     
  4. rexesq

    rexesq Senior Member

    I see, thank you. It's still a great coin, and 1916 was quite an interesting year in Russian history. That's a great collection you have there. I really like the 'amur tiger' and the 1797 2 kopeks, beautiful coins. I also have a 1979 1 ruble. It's got to be one of my favorite coins. I love how it has the date and some other writing on the outside edge. Is this a common theme for many Russian coins?
    I'm going to have to spend some more time looking through your collection, too many pages for one night. Thanks again.
     
  5. rexesq

    rexesq Senior Member

    Also what kind of material is the 1916 kopek made of? and the 1979 1 ruble?
     
  6. gxseries

    gxseries Coin Collector

    The 1916 1 kopek is minted in copper and on the other hand, the 1979 ruble commemorating the Moscow Olympics '80 is in nicupro or better known as Nickel-Copper alloy.

    The last time I counted, I had over 400+ Russian coins on that page alone,so enjoy. :)
     
  7. coopra

    coopra Member

    Speaking about the writing on the first side it is pretty clear - 1 kopeck, year XXXX, СПБ - means St.-Pete
    The other side looks like Мъдная Российская Монета written in old Russian which means Copper Russian Mint. On the bottom you can see the value again одна копейка = one kopeck
    In my opinion your coin is nothing worth because there were a lot of coins (millions) minted during Nicolas the Second period.
    In Russia the average price of such coin in nice condition is a little bit than 1 USD.
    Speaking about the ruble devoted to the Olympic games there were 6 different coins minted between 1979-1981 if I'm not mistaken. This is not my cup of tea. I collect Russian medieval coins but have the full complect of nicupro of the USSR period...
     
  8. rexesq

    rexesq Senior Member

    Wow, 400 Russian coins...thats quite a few. How long did it take you to collect so many?
    The 1979 1 ruble that I have has 'union of soviet socialist repbublics' in cyrillic on the obverse, along with a sickle and hammer above a globe. And '1 ruble 1979' on the reverse. It also has the date and ammount on the outside edge of the coin, I can't get any good pictures of that with it in its case.
     

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  9. coopra

    coopra Member

    This used to be a regular coin. I would call it the simpliest ruble. 7.5 gr.Cu-Ni. It is UNC so it is nice for collection.
    They started to mint it from 1961 till 1991. The most valuable are 1966 and 1989 - about $200.
    P.S. I have much much more than 400 Russian coins. LOL
     
  10. gxseries

    gxseries Coin Collector

    Yes, living in Russia, you can exchange 1 USD for about 30 rubles, and exchanging that 30 rubles for 3000 kopeks would be a lot more than mine :p

    I am not too sure if the 1966 and 1989 are the most valuable, but I would agree if you ever come across trial Soviet rubles,particularly from the 1956 and 1958 - those are VERY expensive.

    Coopra, do you have some kind of coin gallery of what coins you have? :)
     
  11. rexesq

    rexesq Senior Member

    gxseries, do you live in the U.S.?
     
  12. gxseries

    gxseries Coin Collector

    No, I am not in the US. I am currently living in Australia. Most of my Russian coins that I have were bought at a fraction of the current crazy prices, else there is no way I could have that much money to buy them all. Probably the most expensive that I have in my collection and the most hits in omnicoin is the 1834 proof Alexsanderine Column ruble.
     
  13. Aidan Work

    Aidan Work New Member

    Gxseries,can you please post some photos of this Column Rouble coin? I have only ever seen 2 of the Czarist Russian commemorative Roubles - the 1913 Romanoff (English for 'Romanov') Dynasty Tercentenary,
    which turns up from time to time,& the extremely rare 1912 Battle of Gangut Bicentenary Rouble.

    Aidan.
     
  14. gxseries

    gxseries Coin Collector

    Here are the commemorative rubles that I have Aidan:

    1834 Alexander I Column Ruble PROOF
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    Same ruble, but in F+.
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    1839 Alexander I Borodin Ruble PL
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    1896 Nicholai II Coronation Ruble VF+
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    1913 Romanov Ruble VF-, banged, but hey, I bought it at bullion value
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    1914 Gangut Ruble, counterfeit (since the original is like 5000USD+++)
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    I actually had a damaged 1883 Coronation Alexander III ruble, but I was silly enough to give it away. Yes, I did give it away. :(

    The next easiest one to obtain after what I have is the 1859 Monument ruble, but that is very likely to cost a fair amount.
     
  15. Aidan Work

    Aidan Work New Member

    Gxseries,I like the designs on the Borodino & Czar Nicholas II Coronation Roubles.Do you see the symbol above Czar Alexander I's portrait on the Borodino Rouble? It is the All-seeing Eye,which is on the back of the US$1 banknote.It is a Masonic symbol,which some people claim is the symbol of a One World Order.

    How's things been over there in Aussie? It is nice & sunny for a change here in Wellington,New Zealand.

    What's the Krause prices on the 1883 Czar Alexander III Coronation Rouble? I think that is a bit of a scarce coin.

    Aidan.
     
  16. gxseries

    gxseries Coin Collector

    I'm not too sure about the Krause price of the 1883 Alexander III Coronation Ruble, but since the mintage number is actually higher than the 1896 Nicholai II Coronation Ruble, I am guessing an XF of such would be around 100USD or so.

    Mintage on the following are as follows:

    1832 Kolyvan - Voskrestk gold 5 rubles - 2,000
    1834 Alexander Column ruble 1 ruble - 15,000
    1839 Borodin 1 ruble - 20,000
    1839 Borodin 1.5 rubles - 6,000* (many were ordered to be melted)
    1841 Marriage ruble - unknown
    1859 Monument to Nicholai I - 50,118
    1883 Coronation of Alexander III - 279,143
    1896 Coronation of Nikolai II - 190,845
    1898 Monument of Alexander II - unknown, estimated 2,000
    1912 100th Anniversary of the 1812 war - 26,500
    1912 Monument of Alexander III - 2,000
    1913 Romanov ruble - 1,500,000
    1914 Gangut ruble - 30,300 (300 restrikes)

    Australia, or rather Sydney here is actually pretty cold but sunny.
     
  17. coopra

    coopra Member

    Sorry, guys, I have no gallery. U can see the picture of my avatar as an example of Russian medieval coin. This is Pskov coin minted between 1425-1510. On the image there is saint Timofeus or Timofei (I don't know the correct spelling). Pskov people called him Dovomont. Besides, not long ago (a year or so) some treasure hunters in Australia found almost the same coin somewhere in the country. Real amusing!
    I started working on this topic half a year ago but finished it soon.
    Too boring. I plan to continue. I have a dream to make a site devoted to Russian medieval coins.
    Now I have enough material for publishing. Who knows when this project will be finished?
    gxseries, u have real nice coins! It is not easy to collect coins of the country where u do not live...
     
  18. gxseries

    gxseries Coin Collector

    Coopra, the reason why I started to collect Russian coins was because of a book that I bought in Moscow. It's called "Proshloe v monetah", printed in 1994, by A.V. Yurov, which shows commemorative Russian coins from 1832-1991. I actually bought that book in Dom Knigi in Arbat Street. I had to admit, I didn't really appericate old Russian coins in the beginning, but what shook me hard was the large collection of Elizabeth and Peter I rubles when it was on display... but of course the price was several tens of thousands of rubles, which shocked me.

    Soon later, I bought a set of 64 Soviet commemorative rubles in Izmalovski Park before I left Russia... and that started my terrible bug of collecting Russian coins...

    Perhaps I should start to collect Russian Medieval coins but the real problem is identification can become quite difficult, and often, becomes very specialized areas. I prefer to have coins where you can directly tell what year the coins were minted, instead of one referring a catalogue book and then finding out what era it is from. But I guess that is the fun bit of having mysterious coins ;)
     
  19. coopra

    coopra Member

    If the coins were on the display of this book store I would say that prices there are too high. They sell coins there for the tourists. But I never saw fake coins there. We have numizmatic society where you can buy coins cheaper but if u don't know the topic u can buy a fake one or with double price :)
    You are absolutely right when you say that it is hard to know the date of Russian medieval coins. No one knows except several coins where the date is shown. It is not numeric. Old Russian dates were in letters.
    Speaking about mysterious coins, oh god, sometimes I see new types of coins. It is rather hard to guess if it is natural or fake (here I mean fake medieval coins). All u need is experience.
     
  20. Aidan Work

    Aidan Work New Member

    Coopra,do you collect silver Dengi? I have a Denga of Czar Mikhail (or 'Czar Michael' in English) (ruled 1613-45),which gives the Czar's title clearly.That is my earliest Czarist Russian coin.The latest Czarist Russian coin I have is the silver 15 Kopecks dated 1917 with the mintmaster's letters 'BC' (VS).Can anyone please give us the Krause prices for this coin,as I think it is a rare coin.

    Aidan.
     
  21. coopra

    coopra Member

    Right you are. I collect Russian silver and copper coins of pre-Peter 1 period (before year 1717). There were 3 different values of these coins: kopeck, denga (1/2 kopeck) and polushka (1/4 kopeck). Pobably u have a kopeck because all of the rest is quite rare. The main difference between kopeck and denga is the visual of a horse rider. On a kopeck he has a spear in his hand, on a denga - a sword. U can read about your coin here http://www.kgcoins.narod.ru/mihael/page_01.htm There is some text in English as well. Just find the necessary page. If u need some help with your coin ID I shall find the right catalogue number. I'll need the picture of your coin.
    Speaking about 15 kopecks this is not my cup of tea though I have many from Nicolas 2 period. Sorry.
     
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