1960P small date and experience with trading coins

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by buddy16cat, Apr 15, 2012.

  1. buddy16cat

    buddy16cat Well-Known Member

    First off, I know I had a 1960P date floating around somewhere and thought I might have put it into my copper penny stash. Are any of these small date? The "6" is the same for two but fuller and different than the others.
    smalldate.jpg
    Also, what has people's experience with trading coins here? I saw someone is looking for a 1960P-small date and a 1913 wheat cent and I have both I am not really using for anything and thought I might trade these for what they will give me for them.
     
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  3. BUncirculated

    BUncirculated Well-Known Member

  4. buddy16cat

    buddy16cat Well-Known Member

    Yeah the small date one I noticed the 9 was significantly lower, I know I had one around here somewhere.
     
  5. BUncirculated

    BUncirculated Well-Known Member

    The 6 is also something to look at as they are noticeably different too. Pay particular attention to the top of the 6 in both images and you'll see what I mean.
     
  6. buddy16cat

    buddy16cat Well-Known Member

  7. buddy16cat

    buddy16cat Well-Known Member

    I just thought because in these three pennies, one penny has a more rounded 6 and the others have a more flatter round part of the 6.
     
  8. BUncirculated

    BUncirculated Well-Known Member

    The arrow points to what I'm referring to:

    1960largedate-345x193.jpg 1960smalldate-359x192.jpg

    You can also see in the small date, the 1 is level with the top of the 9, wherein the large date, the 1 is set below to the top of the 9. Same as your coins.
     
  9. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor

    The "6" of the large date also far overhangs the bottom curl of the loop. All 3 look like large dates.

    Jim
     
  10. buddy16cat

    buddy16cat Well-Known Member

    yes this is the small date

    I scanned in before to ask about the 9 being so low: It is around here somewhere but don't remember what I did with it.
    pennysmalldate.jpg
     
  11. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor

    Nope, it is a large date.
     
  12. tonedcoins

    tonedcoins New Member

  13. buddy16cat

    buddy16cat Well-Known Member

    I posted this at About.com because of how low the "9" is and he stated that it looked like a small date. I didn't realize that large dates like different than another. Do you have an example of a small date because the last example has a lower 9, that is why I posted it.
     
  14. buddy16cat

    buddy16cat Well-Known Member

    Never mind, examining microscopic differences in pennies is just frustrating. If you are trying to get a set together that is one thing but I'd rather not just trade coins and am reading these pennies are really only worth FV or their weight in copper. I will just throw them in my copper penny stash.
     
  15. buddy16cat

    buddy16cat Well-Known Member

    Anyhow do these dates look different to anyone?
    smalldate.jpg
    I live near Philadelphia so most of the coins I find are Philadelphia. If by chance find a good example of a small date I should keep it aside to trade although I noticed some people seem to think that they can trade things for things that aren't of equal value. Someone may think that foreign coins, maybe found in a foreign coin grab bag, are worth more but it seems price is relative to what someone is willing to pay for it.
     
  16. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins Supporter

    They're both 'large date'.........
     
  17. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor

    Here are 4 from a BU roll I labeled to do an experiment with :) Sacrilegious, I know , but I needed them as close to possible and I had several rolls.


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  18. buddy16cat

    buddy16cat Well-Known Member

    Yes I think that sometimes the term "small date" can mislead people and those that are looking for them might miss one they encounter not knowing it is more about the position of the 9 and 6 rather than the size of the date. The nine extends forward in the large date but the 9 is level with the one. Of course if you want to get the 6 just the right shape like the picture above you need BU coins. I did remember seeing a penny I had with a low 9, lower than normal.
     
  19. 10gary22

    10gary22 Junior Member

    What I finally did was to set up a binder of vinyl pages that hole 20- 2x2 flips. I put a set of comparison cents in one. Nothing makes it easier than to see them side by side. I had the 60's and the 82s, but had to buy a 70s small date proof set for that one. I did it with the 45 micro S dime the 40 S Jeffersons, etc.

    I keep adding to it as I find stuff. I use it when roll searching and hope to pass it to my son some day. The thing I like about the 2x2 flips is it makes it really easy to compare coins, both sides.

    It might be something to think about ? Oh, the 60 & 60D small dates are the same except for the mint mark. So you can use a more common D for a comparison coin.
     
  20. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor

    But the size of the date is different! Below are two photos of 1960-D DDO coins which is a design doubled die , in that the working die was
    struck once with a large date and once with the small date hub. So both dates are on the coin, one on top of the other.
    If you look at the innermost end of the "6" loop, the end farthest to the left is the small date and the other to the right is the
    end of the large "6" loop.

    Ignore the green arrows, they are pointing out the RPM D/D also for this variety

    p.s. I switched the bottom photo to another as it shows better.


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  21. Cazkaboom

    Cazkaboom One for all, all for me.

    Earlier you asked for a true 1960 small date. Here is one I just picked up saturday.
    1960 sm dt.jpg
     
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