PMD or NOT? What do you think.. 1943 Steel

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by TheFrankster, Apr 12, 2012.

  1. Numis-addict

    Numis-addict Addicted to coins

    It could be a clash and counter clash in a secluded area. Very unlikely, considering it looks to be sunk in a good bit. It also looks, to me, and note that I am not an expert, or old enough to have a job, to be a replated steelie, from the picture, at least.
     
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  3. TheFrankster

    TheFrankster New Member

    How do you know if a coin is "re-plated" and how is someone able to do this?
     
  4. Numis-addict

    Numis-addict Addicted to coins

    Quite offten, steel cents turned dark because of the zinc on them. If they have little wear, sometimes people will put a new layer of zinc on it to make it look "better". I think this is accomplished by electro-plating, but have no experience in doing so. A key diagnostic for a re-plate is that the edge of a re-plated cent will be shiny like the rest of it. The reason behind this is that the sheet of metal the blanks are stamped off of are steel, and the sheet is plated with zinc, because the mint did not have time to plate each blank. Therefore, the edge should be a steel gray on the rim, not like the shiny of the rest of the coin. They also rusted often, and that, along with the darkening, caused the cents to be rejected.
     
  5. Numis-addict

    Numis-addict Addicted to coins

    also, please note that it is not a clash and counter clash, because something that deep would at least show up on all of the coin, with slightly rotated images, with the reverse images incuse.
     
  6. mackwork

    mackwork Caretaker of old coins & currency

    If you can post good pictures of the obverse and reverse - that may help to tell if it's plated or not.
     
  7. rascal

    rascal Well-Known Member

    Hi Frankster and welcome to the CT forum. I can see that you are a new member and new members is better off to just ignore some of the older members when they get out of line. the coin you have here looks to be a struck thru coin. actually it appears to be struck thru a dropped letter from the coin die where the letter on the die became clogged then finally fell out of the die letter and got pushed into you coin by the die , It is possibly the I from the words IN GOD WE TRUST. get it checked out by a error expert and if it really is a dropped letter coin it would be quite rare. I collect dropped letter coins and have never seen one on a steel cent.
     
  8. TheFrankster

    TheFrankster New Member

    Here are some photo's. Keep in mind that they are taken with an iphone. I have a macro lens for my iphone but I need to be sooooo close that I can't capture the whole coin with it. So...here goes :) 1943.jpg 1943b.jpg 1943c.jpg
     
  9. mackwork

    mackwork Caretaker of old coins & currency

    Nice coin! It does look like it may have been plated, but someone else may be better at confirming that.
     
  10. Lon Chaney

    Lon Chaney Well-Known Member

    Yeah, that's been plated. Happened a lot, it's to cover up rust and such. Makes it a "sell by the roll" steelie.
    Here's what a BU steelie should look like (more dull grey): $(KGrHqUOKi8E3ZE6c-PQBN3r+hgMog~~_35.JPG
     
  11. TheFrankster

    TheFrankster New Member

    oh...so if my steel's are shinny and not dull than that means that they have been replated?

    setA.jpg setb.jpg
     
  12. TheFrankster

    TheFrankster New Member

    here are some photo's using daylight as my lighting. Think I had some fuzzy thing on my lens though... 1943_front2.jpg 1943_back.jpg
     
  13. mackwork

    mackwork Caretaker of old coins & currency

    I's say (my opinion) that it's plated. I have several original steel cents in all conditions, and also have a set of 3 of the plated ones. The shine and silvery look of the above pictures looks like my plated ones.
     
  14. TheFrankster

    TheFrankster New Member

    Thanks...I'll have to check my others so that I can create a dps collection of the un plated ones. VERY GOOD TO KNOW :)
     
  15. mackwork

    mackwork Caretaker of old coins & currency

    You're welcome!
     
  16. TheFrankster

    TheFrankster New Member

    I'll be posting a new thread shortly asking about a 1950 wheat that may have an "IN GOD WE TRUST" error. Just working on some photo's that capture what I see with my eye peice.
     
  17. rascal

    rascal Well-Known Member

    looks like everyone forgot about the possible error on this coin and went to debating if it was replated or not.
     
  18. TheFrankster

    TheFrankster New Member

    does replating a coin rule out errors?
     
  19. Cazkaboom

    Cazkaboom One for all, all for me.

    Here's a good thread to help tell a re-plate from an original.
    http://www.cointalk.com/t198447/
     
  20. TheFrankster

    TheFrankster New Member

    on page two I photos of front back and collar...what do you think?
     
  21. Cazkaboom

    Cazkaboom One for all, all for me.

    Since it is solid throughout, the luster is gone, and it has a dull look, I am going to say it is re-plated.

    Now back to class I go.
     
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