Vote: What kind of metal is struck into this Flying Eagle cent?

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by robbudo, Apr 9, 2012.

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What kind of metal is struck into this Flying Eagle Cent?

Poll closed Apr 12, 2012.
  1. Silver

    10 vote(s)
    62.5%
  2. Nickel

    5 vote(s)
    31.3%
  3. Other (please specify)

    1 vote(s)
    6.3%
  1. robbudo

    robbudo Indian Error Collector

    PCGS just says "XF45 Obv Stk through Forgn Obj." on the slab.



    1857 pcgs xf45a.jpg 1857 pcgs xf45b.jpg 1857 pcgs xf45c.jpg
     
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  3. robbudo

    robbudo Indian Error Collector

    other comments on coin appreciated as well.
     
  4. Shoewrecky

    Shoewrecky Coin Hoarder

    Makes me think it was a piece of jewelry that someone was trying to solder at one time. That metal looks to be laying on top of the coin in my eyes instead of in the coin. Looking to see what others say
     
  5. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    The details appear to be too sharp for it to be solder over the devices. It looks like it could be a silver fragment. Note the curvature between the "E" & "D" like it could be a remnant from a planchet strip.

    Chris
     
  6. ikandiggit

    ikandiggit Currency Error Collector

    Wild guess..... silver.
     
  7. gxseries

    gxseries Coin Collector

    It has to be some sort of metal instead of jewellery damage otherwise PCGS will not slab it.

    It's hard to tell by photos just by the color. Some experts might be able to tell by the refraction of the light of how metal reflects but it would be difficult to tell from just a couple of pictures. Might be silver, might be aluminum, might be nickel, who knows.
     
  8. robbudo

    robbudo Indian Error Collector

    It is not aluminum - that wasn't even isolated as a pure metal until 1886.
     
  9. mikediamond

    mikediamond Coin Collector

    This doesn't look like a struck-in or a rolled-in object. There is no fissure surrounding the metal and it appears that it might dive beneath the surface. It's most likely an intrinsic metallic inclusion. These usually represent globules of unmixed metal that are normal constituents of the alloy. So I would pick nickel. If it is pure, elemental nickel then it should be attracted to a magnet. However, if there's a significant amount of copper blended in, then that would weaken or eliminate the magnetic attraction.
     
  10. wheatydigger

    wheatydigger Member

    maybe it's zinc? probably not, the zinc would have rotted away by now.
     
  11. tristen1230

    tristen1230 New Member

    I am going to guess silver since they made most coins out of silver back then.
     
  12. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    I think nickel is a definite possibility.

    Try 1827, but the process was expensive. Better processes existed by 1846. Pattern coins began in aluminum were first made at the Mint in 1866. They toyed with the idea of aluminum coins in the 1870's for redemption of fractional currency. In 1884 the Washington Monument was finished with a 100 oz pyramid capstone of pure aluminum, the largest piece of aluminum in existence at the time. In 1885 at least four complete proof sets, cent through double eagle, were struck in aluminum. In 1886 the Hall-Héroult electrolytic process for producing aluminum was developed and it went into commercial production in 1889 resulting in the rapid reduction in the price of aluminum.
     
  13. crowbaby

    crowbaby Member

  14. robbudo

    robbudo Indian Error Collector

    thanks for the feedback/comments!

    If it were Nickel, would be attracted to a strong maget through the slab? I think we have an electromagnet on the local campus - so I'll see if the coin is attracted to that. Of course I'll update after the little experiment.
     
  15. d.t.menace

    d.t.menace Member

    Since Mike Diamond doesn't think it's a strikethrough, have you considered cracking it out?
     
  16. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    Where are the handheld XRF analysers when you need one?
     
  17. crowbaby

    crowbaby Member

    Be interesting to know if it was magnetic robbudo. Pure tin looks
    like silver too. The resistance of the metal can be measure without
    harming the coin. I use super magnets from the inside of old harddrives
    to test for magnetism.
     
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