PMD, or Something Else?

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by omahaorange, Mar 23, 2012.

  1. omahaorange

    omahaorange Active Member

    I'm not one to post my "finds" but I am curious about this one. I picked this up last week with some other coins from the guy I deal with at the local flea market (I've dealt with him since I started collecting several years ago, I do trust him). Not sure if this was done with a vise, or if it started it's merry life into circulation this way. I know the photos aren't that good (I am not a photographer) but the obverse is near smooth and the reverse looks like a double strike. There's no money involved (he threw it in because he knows I like the unusual stuff). So, just tell me what you think.
     

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  3. Kentucky

    Kentucky Well-Known Member

    It kind of looks like someone put another coin under it and then beat the heck out of the face with a hammer.
     
  4. mizozuman2

    mizozuman2 that random guy

    Beat it with a hammer while a dime was under it. You can see part of "ONE DIME" on the left hand side of the picture.
     
  5. redwin117

    redwin117 Junior Member

    [​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG][​IMG] Anyone Knows about the Third coins in this photograph?
     
  6. rascal

    rascal Well-Known Member

    first one i have seen like this but it has been struck on a real cent coin , the words WE TRUST are still visible.
    anyway that is a good slogan American mined , American made , I am a retired miner .
     
  7. ikandiggit

    ikandiggit Currency Error Collector

    Why hijack someone's thread with this?[​IMG]
     
  8. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    +1
     
  9. lupinus911

    lupinus911 Member

    very small amount of copper bullion.
     
  10. omahaorange

    omahaorange Active Member

    Again, the picture doesn't do it jsutice, and the wear doesn't help. Not sure about the dime. I'm not seeing the word, nor do I see any signs of the fasces when looking through a loupe. It appears to be more similar to the Lincoln Memorial (which could have been done via a vise, hammer, etc.). The size of the indentation is more consistent with a cent than a dime. I do appreciate the opinions. I'm debating on whether to keep it, or throw it in the jar so later on a roll hunter can find it and we can go through this all over again.:)
     

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  11. rickmp

    rickmp Frequently flatulent.

    I'm thinking it's a die cap or has been struck with a capped die. If it was a press or vise job the "ONE ****" and "oF AMERICA" would be a mirror image.
    I'm also not seeing "ONE DIME" but "ONE CENT" based on "oF" at 12 o'clock.
     
  12. rascal

    rascal Well-Known Member

    The poster of post #2 and post #3 got it right . if you look directly in the center of the coin it is really easy to see the fasces or what some folks calls the torch from the dime .
    look at how beat up the obverse side is , it is easy to see without a doubt that a hammer did this.
     
  13. rickmp

    rickmp Frequently flatulent.

    Then explain why nothing is backwards/mirror image.
     
  14. kookoox10

    kookoox10 ANA #3168546

    If it was a hammer job, then wouldn't the image by incuse as well? This is obviously raised off the surface.
     
  15. jloring

    jloring Senior Citizen

    Yep, just a hammer job. Image is dime reverse mirrored and incuse.
     
  16. 10gary22

    10gary22 Junior Member

    When I was a kid, my brother and I would put coins on the train tracks just to see what would happen. This kind of looks like some of the stuff we would get. The side on the rail could be pressed smooth and the side with the other coin on top would get all sorts of combos depending on how many cars ran over it. sometimes they would bounce off early and make neat coins, other times the entire train would smash them as flat and this as a piece of paper.

    In any case, I believe the coin is PMD. It just doesn't have the look of a capped die to me.

    gary
     
  17. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna


    The reverse on Mercury dimes show a fasces. Roosevelt dimes show a torch.
     
  18. omahaorange

    omahaorange Active Member

    You could be right, after all. I just looked at this thing till me eye cramped, and I can see what you're talking about. I just can't see much else at the moment.:eek:
     
  19. rascal

    rascal Well-Known Member

    because you just are not seeing the dime part ,
    what you are referring to is what is left of the original design of the cent.
     
  20. rascal

    rascal Well-Known Member

    You are correct , I just said it this way because the OP was calling the torch a fasces.
     
  21. omahaorange

    omahaorange Active Member

    My bad. You are correct.
     
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