Quick tip on detecting counterfeit trade dollars

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by zaneman, Jun 26, 2006.

  1. zaneman

    zaneman Former Moderator

    This doesn't apply to all the counterfeit trade dollars, but the ones coming out of the orient almost always have the following problem: There are tiny raised bumps on parts of the coin, visible only if you are extremely nearsighted of have a glass. There are a whole lot of counterfeits out there. :(
     
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  3. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    You'll find that those raised bumps are a typical give-away for many different counterfeits of all time periods and all coins.
     
  4. zaneman

    zaneman Former Moderator

    I have found that, particularly on gold coins. Do you happen to know what causes those bumps?
     
  5. CoinDude08

    CoinDude08 New Member

    Its due to pouring the metal into a mold right? Be very weary of blury pictures on ebay.
     
  6. YNcoinpro_U.S.

    YNcoinpro_U.S. New Member

    Many also have rotated dies.
     
  7. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    The raised lumps on the cast coins are caused by voids in the molds. The voids are usually caused when little pieces of the mold material adhere to the coin when it is removed from the molding material or from bubbles of air trapped on the surface of the coin when it is pressed into the mold material. There can also be pits in the coin which are caused by bubbles of gas in the molten metal.
     
  8. SapperNurse

    SapperNurse DOD enhanced

    Are there Mintmarks on legitimate Trade Dollars? I know alot of the oens I have seen on Ebay have either S or CC marks. When I look at bestcoin.com or pcgs.com, they do not differintiate between any mintmarks.
     
  9. satootoko

    satootoko Retired

    If you're asking about US TDs, then according to the Red Book they were minted at Philadelphia, Carson City and San Francisco, including an S/CC variety in 1875. (From 1879-85 there were a few thousand more minted, all in Philly.)

    Elswhere, Japanese TDs were minted at both Tokyo and Osaka, without mint marks; and the British TDs were mostly produced at Bombay (B) and Calcutta (C). In a couple of years they were also minted in London (no mark). According to Krause there are 1895-1900 coins with no mint mark, but they were actually produced at one or the other of the Indian mints and the lack of a mint mark was in error. The bulk of the British TDs were minted after the US and Japan had quit making them.
     
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