Seated Liberty quarter with lines

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by LionelR, Mar 12, 2012.

  1. LionelR

    LionelR Supporter! Supporter

    Hello-

    I recently purchased this 1853 Seated Liberty quarter. I'm quite pleased with it, but am curious what those lines at 5 and 7 on the obverse are?

    They seem to go 'under' the arrows, if that makes sense.

    I'd appreciate any thoughts on this coin, what those lines are, its grade? I think it's been cleaned but that's a little-educated guess.

    Thank you in advance and all the best!

    -L

    1853SeatedLibertyQuarterArrowsObverse.jpg 1853SeatedLibertyQuarterArrowsReverse.jpg
     
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  3. ikandiggit

    ikandiggit Currency Error Collector

    Die cracks. Some people love them (like me), some people hate them. Sorry, can't help with a grade.
     
  4. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    Looks like die cracks to me.
     
  5. rodeoclown

    rodeoclown Dodging Bulls

    I'd say Cleaned for sure with VF Details.
     
  6. jello

    jello Not Expert★NormL®

    1853 Seated Quarter Very nice one too!!
    A lot of the Philly strikes have a die crack.some experts think the extra Rays on the rev is why a lot of 1853-P have die cracks.
     
  7. swhuck

    swhuck Junior Member

    You and me both.
     
  8. LionelR

    LionelR Supporter! Supporter

    Thank you all very much for your comments about my Seated Liberty. I very much appreciate the time you spent and the shared insight: I learned a lot.
    Thank you again!
    -L
     
  9. Bedford

    Bedford Lackey For Coin Junkies

    I'd call VF35 & yes there are die cracks on the Obv.Cleaned at some point ,still a decent example-
     
  10. LionelR

    LionelR Supporter! Supporter

    Thanks, Budgood, I appreciate the comments. And look at that... my first 'die crack' :)
    Regards. -L
     
  11. Hunt1

    Hunt1 Active Member

    Really stunning rev.
     
  12. LindeDad

    LindeDad His Walker.

    The arrows and rays half and quarter were only around for one year because the design caused die failure at a higher than normal rate.
    Often quoted info I have read about these coins.
     
  13. mackwork

    mackwork Caretaker of old coins & currency

    Very nice! I wish they still made coins with this kind of detail.
     
  14. kookoox10

    kookoox10 ANA #3168546

    You buy enough older pre-seated stuff and you'll find your fair share of die cracks. Give capped bust coins and early coppers a go and see what I mean ;)
     
  15. zach67005

    zach67005 Active Member

    Those mean that it has no numismatic value whatsoever. Send it to me for disposal & I will only charge half my normal disposal fee(+ shipping of course)
     
  16. au and ms coins

    au and ms coins Junior Member

    Harshly Cleaned, I would return unless you got a great deal
     
  17. LionelR

    LionelR Supporter! Supporter

    Thanks everyone for the very informative posts and all the extra information - I appreciate it and learned a lot!
    -L
     
  18. Urban_Lawyer

    Urban_Lawyer Half dollar nerd

    Out of curiosity, to those who said the coin was cleaned... how do you know from viewing the picture? I'm new to this, and my understanding is that determining that a coin has been "cleaned" requires viewing the coin under a light and looking for unusual pattern in the coin's luster. Are you basing your analysis that the coin was cleaned from the lighter marks around the letters and figures on the coin, as though the person cleaning it could not get in between the high spots?
     
  19. vnickels

    vnickels Matt Draiss Numismatics & Galleries

    Die cracks do not excite me personally unless it is a big one or it is on my beloved V nickels.
     
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