Double Struck ~ off center on the 2nd strike

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by USS656, Mar 10, 2012.

  1. USS656

    USS656 Here to Learn Supporter

    Did I define it right? It is much easier to see the original strike under a 30x loupe. The camera was much harder due to the reflections of light. Opinions/Thoughts

    Thanks ~ Darryl

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  3. LostDutchman

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  4. rickmp

    rickmp Frequently flatulent.

    I can't see any doubling.
    Is it in a flip? Maybe if you take it out of the flip before taking the pic.
    Nice off center, though.
    Are all of those scrapes on the coin or the flip?
     
  5. USS656

    USS656 Here to Learn Supporter

    let me post pictures, the answer is partially towards the obv side
     
  6. iGradeMS70

    iGradeMS70 AKA BustHalfBrian

    Almost just looks like a broadstrike. I don't see any doubling of design elements...

    Do you?

    -Brian
     
  7. USS656

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  8. USS656

    USS656 Here to Learn Supporter

    Not in a flip but like I said it is very hard to capture. The original was mostly taken out by the second strike? Look right in front of his eyebrow on this picture. There are many more examples on this coin like that raised area.

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  9. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

    Hard to say. I am having trouble seeing the "first strikes" design elements as well. So far as I see is a partial collar broadstrike.
     
  10. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    That is my opinion as well. I can see no signs of a second underlying strike anywhere on the coin, either side.
     
  11. rascal

    rascal Well-Known Member

    This extra design looks like it may be from a clashed die. this is the areas that the clash marks usually show up on a Roosevelt dime.
     
  12. USS656

    USS656 Here to Learn Supporter

    LOL - It's really frustrating when you see something, have a hard time explaining it and have a harder time capturing it in images. Most of the ghosted image actually seems more sunken but there are some very minor raised areas as well. The reverse has more to see in this regards so here are a couple more to look at. Look all around the flame and around Plu and Below the A of America. If you do not see it all I can say is there is something there and I am not sure how the Broadstrike would cause it. I do agree that it looks like a broadstrike but there is something else there I do not understand.???

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  13. USS656

    USS656 Here to Learn Supporter

    That would explain what I am seeing. So then It would be both a clashed die and a Broadstrike?
     
  14. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

    Yep Rascal got it. It's just a clashed die and not a second strike.
     
  15. DrunkNumismatic

    DrunkNumismatic New Member

    I see the broadstrike for sure, but I'm less convinced of the die clash. From these pictures, can we really determine that those irregularities in the reserve are the result of die clashing? The only thing I see fur sure is the broadstrike.
     
  16. DrunkNumismatic

    DrunkNumismatic New Member

    But if someone can convince me otherwise, I'm very open to it, as this would be a great learning point..
     
  17. rickmp

    rickmp Frequently flatulent.

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  18. mikediamond

    mikediamond Coin Collector

    As others have said, it's it's a partial collar/broadstrike with faint clash marks.
     
  19. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    I can see the clash in that first pic in this post, but I sure couldn't see it before that.
     
  20. Billyray

    Billyray Junior Member

    Look to the right of the torch in the third pic in the OP, It looks to me like a ghost of the torch, which wouldn't be a clashed die. Anyone else see it?
     
  21. USS656

    USS656 Here to Learn Supporter

    Thank you Mike,

    Billy - that is originally what caught my attention and why I thought it had been struck twice.
     
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