Ruble 1897. Kazakov R-3

Hello!
Please help me identify a coin!
It's a fake or original?

http://antiquesfake.ipb.su/index.php?showtopic=1867

 

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You already identified the coin.

According to forum users replies in your link, the coin is not a fake. IMHO this is not a fake as well.

 

Thank you very much for your response.
I read that there is identified, but wanted more time to make sure.
I have such coins have not yet seen.
Thanks again for the quick reply.

 

Thank you

 

It's the genuine coin. Look at mine (for example).

 

Your most common ruble.
Look at the letters there are differences

 

Agree, the coin is real. The old dirt or crud near the rim is so authentic looking that unless it were a contemporary counterfeit from 100+ years ago, --and frankly there wasn't anything to be gained by faking such a coin at the time-- the coin is almost certain to be real.

 

Thank you very much!
Advice please correct valuation of the coin?
The coin is really rare?

 

No it is not. It's not rare coin.

 

Siberian man, you really don't know what you are looking at. It's a rather scarce variety. The coin is struck in Brussels mint. The stars seem to have defects which some call it the bird tick marks. And also with the letters "b" in rub"le", it's of a different variety.

To say this is common - please show me more examples of this particular coin.

 

its a nice coin.
Im have pay for my exemplare 22 Euro.
Thanks,
Manfred

 

Nicer example, same coin. Common date as well.

 

There is no coin

this coin catalog Kazakova

 

Brussel Mint, 1897, 26000000 pcs.
St. Petersburg Mint, 1897, 18515000 pcs.
I've got mine for 17 $ (5 years ago).
Brussels Mint is much numerous than St. Petersburg Mint.

 

Actually, the value of one rouble in that particular period was like the value of $50 or even $100 in US today. Maybe even more, you could buy A LOT for 1 rouble back then. It was definitely worth counterfeiting back then and there was a lot to gain from it.

Its not a rare coin, but I agree that this is a rare variety, those two letters are definitely a mint error. Not sure about the premium it adds to the coin, but there must be such for error collectors.

 

thank you very much

 

thank you very much

 

I do not recall ever seeing a fake Nicholas II common date Rouble contemporary or otherwise. Would think there would be fakes everywhere if the purchasing power were many multiples of the silver content at the time.

 

I don't know about silver coins faking proportions, I do know that there were plenty of fake banknotes, guess it was just easier and more profitable.