Submitting coins to a TPG that were graded by another TPG

Do I need to crack it out of the slab before I send or leave it alone?

 

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It depends certain TPGs only cross on slabs from other certain TPGs


Edit: for example it seems that ncg will only cross coins that come from PCGS
http://www.ngccoin.com/news/viewarticle.aspx?IDArticle=1335

 

Thats a tough call. Check with the company your gonna re-submit them too. Sometimes crakin the out is the best scenario... Good luck

 

What is it?

 

I would say crack it out just ensure objectivity and not get a grader that will just keep the grade and change the slab. Especially if you feel it warrents a higher grade or for example a NGC 65+ morgan pcgs might not quibble with the hair lower grade and give it a 66 but if they see another top grader went lower they might also in fact lower it to 65 and you lose the + distinguisher.

 

It's a 1955 double die graded by ANACS in the old ANACS holder graded AU55. I want to submit it to PCGS. Crack it or leave it?

 

Don't forget to request the Variety Attribution Service and add the additional fee.

 

I'd say don't bother, you're basically overpaying for another opinion on the grade. Are you keeping it or gonna sell it?

 

I would check out auction archives like Heritage and compare your coin to other examples there. PCGS may allow it to cross but not at its present grade, that might be a good option. I don't believe the grading services are necessarily reluctant to cross nice coins, but they may look at it tinged with suspicion or reluctance. Best option would be to go to a big show where the services are grading the coins on 24 hour schedules and get opinions from the right experts. I paid someone once to give me an opinion on a nice $20 Liberty in a MS63 holder (OH PCGS), but when I cracked it and had NGC grade it, it no-graded due to very light cleaning! Situation #2; I asked an expert at the NGC table about whether certain gold coins would grade OK. He said they needed to go through NCS first, which cost me over 5% on a common $20 gold coin! Thoroughly examine your own coins and realize there are as many bandits in this business as at Foxwoods!

 

For a 1955 DDO i would get it in one of those new secure plus, they're alot neater IMO. I dont think you HAVE to crack it out, to the point where they will reject the coin and send the slab back; but realize they are fully compelled to charge you a removal fee, which can be $1-$5. Cracking a coin out of the slab isn't difficult, but be careful and don't do it if you think you can't.

 

Keep it in, save the $

 

The ANACS slab is cracked. I just want to have PCGS grade it to increase marketability (sp?) The secure plus is the one with the sheild on it right? I'm not sure how to get the slab open

 

I agree. In fact, I'll even go so far as to say I believe the old ANACS grading was better than today's PCGS grading, so anyone who knows what they're doing will know the grade is good. Of course, I bet it would grade higher at PCGS because, like I said, their grading isn't what it used to be and yesterday's AU-55's are today's MS-65's. And people wonder why I despise TPG's today.
Guy

 

Without seeing a good photo, I believe the odds are like Doug said ^ . I think the chnance of it coming back cleaned or treated are quite high. PCGS doesn't charge extra for that variety as it is in the redbook and has a regular submission number.

I would keep it in he current slab unless you have determined it has not been messed with to give a "Details" slab.

Jim

 

I will post some pictures tomorrow. There doesn't seem to be any cleaning or treating. it's between a dark and light brown color

 

This is everything.

Here's the key - forget the plastic it's in; what does the coin itself say ? When you ignore the plastic and look at the coin, what do you think about it ? Is it original ? Nice color and surfaces ? Minimal wear and marks ?

Those are the dominant issues. It's all about the coin itself.

If it will cross, it will attract a LOT more attention in a PCGS slab. If it's strong for an AU55, I would consider submitting it. I've had success getting crossovers at par ANACS -> PCGS (even new blue and yellow ANACS have crossed). It's all about the COIN.

I agree with earlier comments regarding old ANACS. There are plenty of nice coins in old ANACS plastic. But as was said earlier, there are a lot more plastic buyers than educated coin buyers. In their minds, PCGS plastic > old ANACS.

 

Here are some pictures of the penny. My camera isn't any good, this is the best I could get.