I rarely post in this section because I'm a classic coin collector. But when I was at my local coin dealer, he just obtained these from a collection along with one or two ancients. I picked them up for $20 each figuring there is a little silver content to help off-set the cost. He told me the first coin was from the regin of King Hernry the Third between 1216 and 1272. The second was from the regin of King Edward the Second between 1307 and 1327. He is a fairly knowledgable dealer on US coins but I'm not sure of his expertiese with Medieval coins. Is he right on or not? Was it a fair price and value? I bought them just for a change of pace and to add a little more interest to my collection.
My last coin has a lot of clipping on it. From what I was told, the cross design on the back was to discourage and help prevent people from doing that. It sure didn't work that way on everyone. I thought that much clipping may hurt the value quite a bit ???
I could attribute the coins for you, but for me it would take quite a bit of time to do so. Someone else will come along that can do it in a fraction of time it would take me. As for the clipping, it is so common for coins of that period to have been clipped that the clipping is often almost ignored. Yes it does affect the value, but it does so in a pretty much unnoticeable way. That's because most of the coins have been clipped to some degree. I believe both of yours have. About the only time you notice the value difference is when you find an unclipped example.
http://www.coins-of-the-uk.co.uk/pics/pen1b.html My favourite site for identifying hammered coins You can have a look yourself I`ll probably be wrong and I can probably say swish will be looking at this and helping you soon like he does with my hammered coins
the first one is either henry iii class iv or class v, minted between 1247-1272, by robert of canterbury. (i believe on the moneyer, it's hard for me to make out.) the second one is not edward ii, but edward iii (1327-1377), and was minted in london. the obverse legend reads EDWARDVS REX ANG, which was an edward iii legend. many people have trouble telling edward i, edward ii, and edward iii coins apart. that specific legend was used during the third coinage, 1344-1351. NICE COINS!!! :thumb:
First of all, thank you swish513 for your information. You certainly have answered my attribution questions. Also, the link from ow9654 will be helpful on any similar coins I aquire. And like yakpoo asked, any additional information on value would be appreciated. I like to put in a number on my spreadsheet program for future reference. Thanks for eveyone's replies.
they are common. however, i believe that the second coin is a halfpenny, not a penny. the obverse legend, the star after ANG, and the star in the reverse legend after DON are mentioned for halfpennies, not pennies. sam, how big is the coin and how much does it weigh?
ok, i can confirm it now. it is an edward iii halfpenny. the star threw me off originally. and i was wrong, it is from the second coinage (1335-1343) and has a lowered fineness of silver (.833). reference numbers for your coin are S.1540A (from the spink catalogue) and N.1102/1 (from j.j. north's catalogue). if you would like, i could figure out the class of your henry penny. i'm not as familiar with the series, so it may take a little more time. as for value, you did well. usually i see henry iii in about the same condition sell for around $40. the clips on the edward iii do take a bit of value away. without the clips, it usually goes for around $50.
ok, i was checking on your henry penny. it appears to be a class 5f (minted 1251-1272), as that is the only type that mentions a double-banded crown, which yours appears to have. it's catalogue number is S.1372. hope this is a help!
