Hayes Dollar Edge Inscription Error

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by g1rge, Feb 23, 2012.

  1. g1rge

    g1rge Member

    Some how the mintmark was overstruck with a star, the die configuration differs between the 2 coins. What happened here?


    Hayes Dollar Error 1.jpg Hayes Dollar Error 2.jpg Hayes Dollar Error 3.jpg Hayes Dollar Error 4.jpg
     
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  3. rickmp

    rickmp Frequently flatulent.

    It took an extra spin in the edge roller.
     
  4. g1rge

    g1rge Member

    Seems like there would be more overstrikes or doubling if it went thru 2x
     
  5. rickmp

    rickmp Frequently flatulent.

    OK. An extra quarter of a spin.
     
  6. g1rge

    g1rge Member

    Here is another picture, the date is alignad as before.

    Hayes Dollar Error 6.jpg
     
  7. rickmp

    rickmp Frequently flatulent.

  8. g1rge

    g1rge Member

    I found this possible explanation

    http://coins.about.com/od/errorcoinsdievarieties/a/edge_lettering.htm

    Mis-Aligned Edge Lettering - The edge lettering appears with abnormal spacing compared to normal coins; one or more letters may be too close to their neighbors, or spaces may be longer or shorter than they usually are. The suspected cause is "slippage" of the coin during the ride through the edge lettering groove, perhaps from the machine being slowed down for a second, or stopped and restarted. With an unknown number of specimens, this error appears to be rare.
     
  9. HowardStern

    HowardStern Member

    This is an overlapping edge lettering error (OEL). I have had quite a few of these graded.
     
  10. Tuffjump

    Tuffjump Junior Member

    I believe that the coin made hard contact with another coin and the star was imprinted on your coin. I see this often on the edges of the dollar coins.
     
  11. james m. wolfe

    james m. wolfe New Member

  12. HowardStern

    HowardStern Member

    It did not make hard contact with another coin. I can tell that there is a huge gap before the date. Which makes it a shifted, or improperly spaced edge lettering error. Sometimes the shift is so big it will cause the stars to bunch up. Rarely does a star overlap a MM. Even rarer does the shift cause major slippage and cause letters or stars to be missing, which would be a partial edge lettering.
     
  13. g1rge

    g1rge Member

    Thanks for confirming the error HowardStern,
    how do you go about having errors such as this graded?
     
  14. HowardStern

    HowardStern Member

    Best bet would be PCGS or ANACS. I have used NGC for these in the past, but NGC knows very little about errors on presidentials.
    Sometimes theyll grade them and sometimes they wont. If you send them more than a few..they wont.
    I dont use ngc at all anymore because of this. I sent them 2 oels and they got the error attribute. Then I sent them 10 more of the same error..star completely overlapping the MM...and they tried to deny attribution. They did this with my weak edge buchanans too. I had them refund me completely both times. Who wants an error coin in a regular slab with no attribution?
     
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