1992D A_M ? and 2005 Buff Nick ?

Can someone explain to me about the 1992D Lincoln cent. I've been reading about the A and M in AMERICA on reverse touching or not touching. After reading this I'm more confused than I was! Is it an error or die variety? And anyone heard of a 2005 P Bison "5 Legged error" machine doubling? Thanks again all great knowing ones!!! :bow:

 

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I have been hunting for the 1992 d wide AM variety for a long time. Good luck because it goes for quite a pretty penny!! No pun intended

 

All of the Lincoln memorial reverse hubs (for both proof and business strike dies) used before 1993 had the A and M of AMERICA spaced apart. The wide AM.

In 1993 the reverse hub was changed so that the AM are almost touching at the base. The close AM. This close AM design was used on both proof and business strike coins.

The dies for 1993 were made staring in 1992, and at least one 1993 close AM reverse die was accidently put into use in Denver and one in Philadelphia. Currently a couple dozen 1992-D close AM cents are known, and a single example of the 1992 close AM cent.

Starting in 1994 they started using the Wide AM design for proof dies only, and the Close AM design for business strikes.

In 1998, 1999, and 2000 a die hubbed with the Wide AM proof design was not polished but was accidently diverted and used to strike buisness strike coins. The 1998 and 2000 coins are fairly available but the 1999's are quite scarce.

Also in 1999 a business strike Close AM reverse die was shipped out with the proof dies , polished and used to strike proofs. I'm not sure how scarce it is. There may have been a couple other years with Close AM dies being used to strike proofs in error. I'm not sure.

 

So 1992D close AM, and 98,99, 2000 wide AMs are what to look for? BTW EXCELLENT info!!!!:bow:

 

In Re: 1992 Lincoln Cent

Hello,

In Re: 1992-

To me this is still a bit confusing. I read the article on Coneca as well as here.
I have seen close AM's on 1992 as well as 1993's and 1994's but not closed
in circulation change. Was there a time where close Am's were produced as part
of a design. Not talking about the closed AM's.????

 

After further reading- I finally got it. There were different designs and James Wiles
explained it on his article-Lincoln Memorial Reverses, also on the Coneca website.

Thanks

 

I think I read somewhere also the 1992 close AM and 1998S close AM. I would have to do some more reading to be sure though. Maybe someone else here heard of this also?

 

I mentioned the 1992 Philadelphia Close AM in my first post, currently one specimen known. The 1998-S Close AM I do not know ( I don't really follow these things) about but it could be possible along with other years of proofs with Close AM's that haven't been discovered yet. Any time you have one die shop making dies for two different mints with just slightly different designs you are asking for a mix-up. (Philadelphia at the time was making the dies for all three mints. Since 1997 they have just been making the dies for San Francisco and Philadelphia.)

 

There were both 1998-S and 1999-S Proof Cents produced using Business Strike Reverse Diies with the "Close AM"! The 1999-S "Close AM" Variety values have seen many ups and downs and have generally ranged anywhere from $200 to $1,000 ungraded individually or still in it's Proof Set and $300 to $1,200 graded individually. The 1998-S "Close AM" Variety appears to be much more rare and the few that have been offered, have garnered significantly higher prices over the 1999-S Variety! Considering that quite a few of the 2000-P Business Strike Cents were struck using Proof "Wide AM" Dies, then it is reasonable to believe that 2000-S Proof "Close AM Variety" Cents exist as well, although none have been reported.


Frank

 

Thanks guys, and about the 2005 5-legged Bison?