1820 Large cent?

Gold/silver dealer that is sort of a friend has this for $50 ea.

I'm only interested in the 1820, but the toning looks fugly. Think I should pass?

I graded it at VF-20 which books at $75, but the toning SCARES me.

 

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I'd pass.

 

The '20 looks cleaned and won't grade, if that matters. The '22 is corroded.

I'd pass on both.
Lance.

 

Your right, that is what I thought. Looks like a botched job of cleaning and trying to retone.

 

Offer him 2c . The 22 would look more like a burnished type cleaning.

 

cleaned + environmental damage = pass

 

Looks like it went into a rock tumbler.

 

Pictures do not show the color adequately to make a judgement on that. Rev appears corroded and there is damage to the obv between stars 6 and 7. The pictures are out of focus but it does appear to be a club top 2 and it looks like it might be a N-14. If it is I would definitely be interested at that price. If it is a curl top 2 then it would most likely be N-7 or N-9 and the more I look at it the more unlikely I think that is. In that condition and with that damage it MIGHT be worth it to a collector if it was an N-9 Anything other than an N-6 (which it definitely isn't), N-9, or N-14 definitely isn't worth it at that price.

The 22 looks like N-5 which is common and that one is pretty beat up and is probably about a $20 to $25 coin.

 

I don't think N7 is a possibility, Conder. It looks like a large date. I think the N9 is out also. The 2 is in the wrong position...should be lower.

Looks to me like an obv 10, which makes it N10 or N14. I see large berries. Ergo, N14, an R5 coin.

Better images would help a lot! Might very well be worth $75.
Lance.

 

I agree with the others. Both coins have problems and I would pass on both. You are better of buying lower grade but without problems than higher details with problems.

 

That's why I said the more I looked at it the less I thought it was. I think it is most likely N-14 (good one!) but can't be absolutely sure from the pictures provided.

 

I'd try to pick up both for 40 dollars total. They are still early pieces of American History.

 

This would have my vote. If wouldn't be a runaway bargain by no means, but by offering this and backing your offer with supporting knowledge provided by the members might help you win this negotiation. You'll have a couple decent large cents, and if the N-14 attribution checks out, you might even make a couple dollars if you resell it.

 

Pass.

If I were you, I would save another hundred bucks, go to Shawn Yancey's website, and buy his 1800 S211 R3 Draped Bust Large Cent in PCGS G4.

That's what I would do, at least.

 

If he wanted $50 each for them, he's not going to get them for $40 for both.

Yes he might