Help for a new grader...1896-O Morgan

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by sf340flier, Jun 17, 2006.

  1. sf340flier

    sf340flier New Member

    I picked this up at a local auction. On the table (for some stupid reason) I thought it looked MS with a 6x magnifier, but when I got it home and photographed it, I think I way over graded. The hairline on the front seems more defined to the naked eye (as weird as that sounds) and the eagle's breast also looks to have some detail, but looks flat under the camera (using a 10X macro lens). I have also just started coin photography (thanks to this forum).

    Being very new to this hobby, can you tell me what you think this should grade at and any better ways to "field test" coins? Is it just an experience thing?

    BTW, I paid $180 for it. The delears in the room stopped bidding around $120 (which should have been my first clue).

    Thank you in advance for any help...this forum has really taught me so much.

    1896-o front
    1896-o back
     
  2. Avatar

    Guest User Guest



    to hide this ad.
  3. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    I'd say the coin grades about XF45. You didn't do too bad price wise, overpaid by about $40 I'd say. And as you realized later - that's why the dealers quit bidding.
     
  4. erwizard

    erwizard Numismatic RN

    I thought possibly AU50. Bag marks and surface abrasions, traces of wear on wing tips breast and talons. Still Red Book trands at $190
     
  5. SuperDave

    SuperDave Free the Cartwheels!

    Nice pics, and although GDJMSP's technical grading is spot on, as usual, I think it might squeeze into an AU50 slab based on market grading. You overpaid a bit, but given the relative rarity of the issue you just need to hold on to it for a couple more years until the market price catches up to you. It'll happen.

    Had it been an 1881-S you'd overpaid for, I'd be extending my sympathy, but you'll be OK.
     
  6. bqcoins

    bqcoins Olympic Figure Skating Scoring System Expert

    Not a terrible buy, and not too expensive a lesson to be learning on "auction fever"
     
  7. sf340flier

    sf340flier New Member

    Thank you all for your comments. This has been a huge learning experience for me. I tend to be more of a collector than a speculator, so I will be hanging on to the coin for awhile.

    -flier
     
  8. zaneman

    zaneman Former Moderator

    Does anyone else here think that coin has been harshly cleaned? I see hundreds of hairline scratches on it. :(
     
  9. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Most definitely - just didn't mention it.
     
  10. Bonedigger

    Bonedigger New Member

    Good Eye's there Z and GD :)

    B
     
  11. sf340flier

    sf340flier New Member

    It's hard to tell from the pictures because of lighting, but the coin has fairly good luster. I thought that a harshly cleaned coin loses luster and appears dull? I do see all the hairlines and was wondering about them though. Overall, this will have to be something I look out for in the future.

    Thanks again for all the opinions and comments.
     
  12. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator


    Sometimes yes, but generally that is what happens with a coin that has been over-dipped. There are many types of cleaning.
     
  13. bruce 1947

    bruce 1947 Support Or Troops

    It is amazing how even very light cleaning can scratch the surface of a coin.
     
  14. rocketman

    rocketman New Member

    Anyone else wonder how many morgans that weren't released in the Treasury Release from 1962-64 have been ruined by cleaning/melted? It must be an incredibly high number.
     
Draft saved Draft deleted

Share This Page