who can read roman numerals

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by irisheyes, Feb 19, 2012.

  1. irisheyes

    irisheyes New Member

    does anyone know what year this is



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  3. Tyler G.

    Tyler G. Active Member

    I can read roman numerals but can't find where they are on the coin
     
  4. TheCoinGeezer

    TheCoinGeezer Senex Bombulum

  5. swish513

    swish513 Penny & Cent Collector

  6. zach24

    zach24 DNSO 7070 71 pct complete

    Okay, I see them now....

    1876, like Swish said.
     
  7. swish513

    swish513 Penny & Cent Collector

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    the date is circled... mdccclxxvi
     
  8. irisheyes

    irisheyes New Member

    right behind her back
     
  9. Owle

    Owle Junior Member

    That always gets me! Why do they have to use a foreign language when everyone knows standard dates?

    #2 Why are dates hard to read on some coins, like 1/10 oz. eagles--they could easily make it so you don't need magnification.
     
  10. irisheyes

    irisheyes New Member

    do you think it overly worn looking considering its from 1876

    thx
     
  11. rickmp

    rickmp Frequently flatulent.

    Each letter has a value.
    Most of the time it is just easy addition.
    I = 1
    V = 5
    X = 10
    L = 50
    C = 100
    D = 500
    M = 1000
    If a lower numeral comes before a higher numeral, you subtract the lower from the higher before adding it: IV = 4 / CM = 900

    For your coin, MDCCCLXXVI:
    M = 1000
    D = 500
    C = 100
    C = 100
    C = 100
    L = 50
    X = 10
    X = 10
    V = 5
    I = 1
    MDCCCLXXVI = 1876

    It's easy, really.
     
  12. Vess1

    Vess1 CT SP VIP Supporter

    Here's a few basic rules to help you read them in the future.

    Once you know what the symbols stand for, it's pretty basic. You can't have more than three of the same symbol in a row to form a number. So you can't do, "IIIII" to make 5. It has to be a "V". Next rule, when a lower value symbol comes before a higher value symbol, it is subtracted from the higher to give you your number. i.e... IV is a 4. IX is a 9. All values follow this rule.

    So: mdccclxxvi All declining values in a row so these just need to be added together to give you the date. M= 1k. D=500. C=100 L=50 and so on. These symbols translate to:

    1000+500+100+100+100+50+10+10+5+1= 1876.

    2012 would simply be MMXII. 1k+1k+10+1+1. 2009 would be MMIX. 1989 would be MCMLXXXIX First M is your 1k. The C has to be subtracted from the bigger M in front of it for your 9. LXXX gets added together for your 80. IX gives you the 9.

    Wife had to learn them for college and I ended up learning them too. I like it.
     
  13. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    While you're correct that you aren't supposed to use more than three of the same symbols consecutively, I have seen dates (incorrectly) displayed that way on some medals. I don't think there was any prerequisite centuries ago that medalists had to be mathematicians.

    Chris
     
  14. irisheyes

    irisheyes New Member

    do you know what this coin is worth
     
  15. lettow

    lettow Senior Member

    Watchmakers often used IIII instead of IV.
     
  16. Vess1

    Vess1 CT SP VIP Supporter

    Good catch. I just looked at the watch Im wearing and it has IIII for the 4. Most of it is cut off because the date window is there. I wonder why they do this?

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  17. Hobo

    Hobo Squirrel Hater

    CM = 900 (not 90).
     
  18. swish513

    swish513 Penny & Cent Collector

    romans often did the same thing. "cos IIII"
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  19. daveydempsey

    daveydempsey Well-Known Member

    Assuming its the Gothic Florin rather than the Halfcrown, the book value is £35 for fine ($55) it is a scarcer year, however a realistic sale value would be around £15 if the reverse is the same condition as the obverse.
     
  20. daveydempsey

    daveydempsey Well-Known Member

    A William IV coin is displayed as IIII

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  21. Vess1

    Vess1 CT SP VIP Supporter

    Well I googled it. Prior to 1200 to 1300 AD, IIII was commonly used for 4, essentially breaking the rule. It was commonly used on roman sun dials. It is though that it possibly was done because IV had something to do with the God Jupiter. They may have avoided using it out of respect.
    Clock and watch makers still use IIII mainly out of tradition.


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