"Machine damage" Walker

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Owle, Feb 14, 2012.

  1. Owle

    Owle Junior Member

    This is one of those what the ??? situations. Nice coin submitted via Teletrade to PCGS, comes back two plus months from grading called "machine damage". What a bummer. I thought it would grade around 65 for sure. Anyone have thoughts on this?

    http://www.teletrade.com/coins/lot.asp?auction=3230&lot=1406
     
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  3. kookoox10

    kookoox10 ANA #3168546

    Yes I see it, on the breast of the eagle. Yet a shame, nice coin except that little doodad.
     
  4. Owle

    Owle Junior Member

    The question is why "machine damage"? Which machine damaged it? The mint?
     
  5. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    It is a nice looking coin, but should have been pre-screened more strictly before submission, especially if hoping to eek out a gem grade. Being as uncirculated late Walkers can often be picked for relatively small premiums above melt, the profit potential for the right coin can be tempting and is all the more reason to err on the conservative side. Its too easy to become buried when submitting such coins. Minus the genny issue, I personally feel that a 65 was hopeful thinking at best. This is more than likely an example that would have sold raw both quickly and profitably (assuming this was your intention and the price of admission was low). I do hope you come out in the black on this one though.
     
  6. james m. wolfe

    james m. wolfe New Member

    is it yours or you thinking about buying it???
     
  7. Owle

    Owle Junior Member

    I bought it from a dealer as an MS coin.
     
  8. james m. wolfe

    james m. wolfe New Member

  9. TheCoinGeezer

    TheCoinGeezer Senex Bombulum

    I'd see if I could return it, although I have to say the damage on the reverse is fairly obvious, even to the casual observer.
     
  10. Owle

    Owle Junior Member

    The question is what was the cause of the damage? A mint machine? I have coins they call "damaged".
     
  11. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    I must not be a casual observer, I don't see it.
     
  12. kookoox10

    kookoox10 ANA #3168546

    It took me a second to see it. But did you spot the scrape on the eagle's breast area?
     
  13. Cazkaboom

    Cazkaboom One for all, all for me.

    Okay from the photos I see on teletrade, my eyes are bad today, but I think it may be a DDR on the motto? Also I can't find the designer's initials on the reverse.
     
  14. Owle

    Owle Junior Member

    Unbelievably anal of PCGS, frankly. My guess they have some sort of screening machine that kicked it out to deny a numerical grade. My only option now is to let it run, pay the grading fee to Teletrade, get the coin back and either resubmit it to a different service or see if the original dealer would give me some money back on it, something that is not his problem IMO.
     
  15. TheCoinGeezer

    TheCoinGeezer Senex Bombulum

    It's right on the eagle's breast feathers, immediately below his neck.
    I spotted it right away when looking at the reverse picture.
    If you blow up the picture, it's even easier to spot.
     
  16. TheCoinGeezer

    TheCoinGeezer Senex Bombulum

    I'm no fan of PCGS but the coin has obvious PMD. I don't think NGC would grade it either.
    Just my 2¢
     
  17. Owle

    Owle Junior Member

    Thanks. Some people have eyes like hawks--what's the secret, carrot juice?
     
  18. NorthKorea

    NorthKorea Dealer Member is a made up title...

    Umm. I think the damage is pretty obvious. It's like someone took a file to the coin. I think it'd be awful if this coin was "tested" for silver plating...
     
  19. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    I'm seeing marks on the obverse as well.
     
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