What die wear looks like on the die...

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by LostDutchman, Feb 7, 2012.

  1. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

    Here is a cool piece that I picked up today. This piece was used to strike the replica and commemorative $20 tribute pieces. You can clearly see in the center of the die where it began to break down from striking coins.

    Most people have only seen the result of die wear. Here is die wear ON a die. I thought these pictures might be useful in trying to understand die wear.

    Enjoy!

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  3. Hobo

    Hobo Squirrel Hater

    VERY cool!! Thanks for sharing.
     
  4. coinman0456

    coinman0456 Coin Collector

  5. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    Yes, indeed! Wouldn't it be wonderful to find a last piece struck by that specific die to have as a pair for making illustrations!
     
  6. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

  7. Shoewrecky

    Shoewrecky Coin Hoarder

    edited Thanks for sharing
     
  8. 19Lyds

    19Lyds Member of the United States of Confusion

    Why is COPY stamped onto the shield? Was this NOT a US Mint Coin Die?
     
  9. GreatWalrus

    GreatWalrus WHEREZ MAH BUKKIT

    You should get one of the coins to go along with it. That would be cool.
     
  10. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

    As I said up top this was used to stamp replica or reproduction coins. Neat but definitely not original US mint. This die was however used and does show the wear I'm trying to illustrate.
     
  11. Cazkaboom

    Cazkaboom One for all, all for me.

    Very cool representation, LD! You have again gave me something I have never seen.
     
  12. 19Lyds

    19Lyds Member of the United States of Confusion

    Well what can I say other than reading is not my strong suit. Apparently whining is though!
     
  13. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    It does a lot more than that ! I would urge everybody to blow those pics up to their maximum size and save them on your computers. Those pics can teach you more about coins than a dozen of the best books written. And Matt - take some more ! If for nothing else then just for me. Close-ups of each quadrant please.

    If you want to understand die wear, as the original intent of this thread, thos epics will teach it to you. But they will also show you flow lines in the die, die polish lines, die scratches, and undisputed proof of what a soft cloth can do to hard metal. And the relationship of all of these things to each of the other things.

    There is a wealth of knowledge in those simple pictures. Bravo ! :thumb:
     
  14. ikandiggit

    ikandiggit Currency Error Collector

    Thanks for posting this, Matt!
     
  15. rev1774

    rev1774 Well-Known Member

    Thanks for sharing those photos and I would love seeing more shots of those myself.
    It is great seeing just how a die can wear and translate to the coins themselves.
    I'm definitely saving those images!!
     
  16. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

    I'll get some more here shortly.
     
  17. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

  18. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    OK folks start looking at those pics, really looking at them. Identify which marks are die scratches. Identify which marks are flow lines, which ones are die polish lines, which ones were caused by somebody wiping the die with a cloth, and so on.

    Then - start looking at coins !
     
  19. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

    Here are some more good shots. you will even see some rust on the bottom left of the die.

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  20. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

  21. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Too much mirror and frost contrast in those (group 2), the effects on the die are lost in those pics. But thanks for the effort.
     
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