grade this coin!

Discussion in 'What's it Worth' started by The_Cave_Troll, Jun 11, 2006.

  1. The_Cave_Troll

    The_Cave_Troll The Coin Troll

    Here is a coin I am considering, but it is in a less than perfect slab so I'm looking for grade opinions.

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    Thanks for your thoughts!

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  3. Bonedigger

    Bonedigger New Member

    I'll go AU-55.

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  4. 09S-V.D.B

    09S-V.D.B Coin Hoarder

    Cant quite tell, but from the pics I'll say AU - 50 RB.

    AWESOME coin :thumb:
     
  5. Speedy

    Speedy Researching Coins Supporter

    Sometimes IMHO a photo can be too large to grade---But here is my guess.
    The carbon spots on the back do take away from the look----
    I think I see some ware on the tops of the hair---if that is wear AU58.....BUT if that is just from the photo MS61

    Speedy
     
  6. YNcoinpro_U.S.

    YNcoinpro_U.S. New Member

    Man, I would love this coin to be an MS-63RB, but I see the same thing as everyone else and am going to go AU-58-unfortunately.
     
  7. bqcoins

    bqcoins Olympic Figure Skating Scoring System Expert

    Who slabbed it?
    I can't tell if the light on the high points on the obv are wear of if it is just reflected light. however, from what I can see the coin looks diagnostically correct and I can see a beautiful bowl shape radiating in from the edges of the coin (one of my favorite parts of a coin is the depth of relief). Provided the high points just are reflecting light, I am concerned about the black specks on the reverse. I would say MS-62. If the high points are wear AU-58.
     
  8. Speedy

    Speedy Researching Coins Supporter

    Unless I miss my guess it is slabbed by ICG.

    Speedy
     
  9. vincent2920

    vincent2920 Senior Member

    Another nice coin.Nice color and detail. A few marks / specks on the reverse but I'll say it has AU58 with MS60/62 potential.
     
  10. The_Cave_Troll

    The_Cave_Troll The Coin Troll

    It is in a new ANACS 64 Brown clearview holder. It seems no one thinks it is that nice though. Not a good statement for the new ANACS coins.
     
  11. Bonedigger

    Bonedigger New Member

    MS-64... GULP :eek: If they say so :confused:

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  12. bqcoins

    bqcoins Olympic Figure Skating Scoring System Expert

  13. YNcoinpro_U.S.

    YNcoinpro_U.S. New Member

    My first gut said 63RB, but when I read the other previous posts I had to use my other gut and go the 58.
    I think it's a great coin and wouldn't mind having it in my collection. An improvement on my F-15/VF-20.
     
  14. Speedy

    Speedy Researching Coins Supporter

    I've been saying that it seems with this move that ANACS has done they have started to overgrade.....IMHO the carbon spots themselves kill it from the 63 grade.
    BTW--That S doesn't look like it is in the right place....look at it and look at this one...
    Since that must not be ware on the tips of the hair then I will go MS but not 63.


    Speedy
     
  15. The_Cave_Troll

    The_Cave_Troll The Coin Troll

    The S is ok speedy, there are 4 obverse dies used to make them and each one of them has the MM in a different location. the coin i listed has one of the 4 correct MM positions.
     
  16. Speedy

    Speedy Researching Coins Supporter

    True---I had forgotten about the 4 dies for them....

    Speedy
     
  17. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator


    What about the die chip on top of the mint mark ? It's not something I recall seeing before, 'course that doesn't mean much.

    As for grade, I can't say I see any wear, but given the condition of the left wreath and the carbon spots and the fact that it's not well centered, I wouldn't give it a 64 either.
     
  18. The_Cave_Troll

    The_Cave_Troll The Coin Troll

    well it sold for just over $1500 which is low 64BN money, but I'm glad I didn't get it. I'm willing to spend a little more if it is a nicer than average 64.
     
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