1909 vdb

Discussion in 'What's it Worth' started by pennsteve, Feb 4, 2012.

  1. pennsteve

    pennsteve Well-Known Member

    This is more of a "what would you grade it" than a what is it worth. I scanned this with my scanner but it doesn't show that some of the luster is still there, but not much. I was told Very Fine, but what would that translate to in the PCGS scale? 4? 12?

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  3. RiverGuy

    RiverGuy Tired and Retired

    I would give it a XF40 if it looks in hand similar to your scans.
     
  4. pennsteve

    pennsteve Well-Known Member

    It does look better under a loupe. I has that dark streak across the obverse, but it also has a little luster. I was looking at a site on how to grade coins and I figured it to be extra (extremely?) fine too, but I didn't want to jump to conclusions. lol I really need to get a camera with macro so I can take better pictures. When I have time later I'm going to use my crappy camera and put my loupe on the front and see if I can get a better picture.
     
  5. Merc Crazy

    Merc Crazy Bumbling numismatic fool

    Agreed with the XF... if it has more luster as you're saying, XF45.
     
  6. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    Your pictures are a bit hard to interpolate, but I think that coin would go AU. I not even sure I see any wear on the ear.
     
  7. pennsteve

    pennsteve Well-Known Member

    Thanks for all the replies. I'm going to try to get a better picture later today. :)
     
  8. james m. wolfe

    james m. wolfe New Member

    :yes:very nice !!!
     
  9. pennsteve

    pennsteve Well-Known Member

    More photos

    Here are some more photos. I tried to get the lighting right. I used my camera with my loupe taped on instead of scanning them. I also got a closeup of the ear and bowtie and the wheat on the back. It says I can only add 5 photos per post so I'll add the last one on another reply.
     

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  10. pennsteve

    pennsteve Well-Known Member

    Right wheat

    Here is the last picture.
     

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  11. james m. wolfe

    james m. wolfe New Member

    LincolnwithPenny.jpg looks fine to me
     
  12. Merc Crazy

    Merc Crazy Bumbling numismatic fool

    Hmm, I'm gonna revise that upwards to AU58/MS62 BN.
     
  13. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    I am still guessing AU, but it might make MS. If it is AU, it would be 55 or 58.
     
  14. pennsteve

    pennsteve Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the replies. If it was MS, which I doubt, would it be a low number like 4? I notice on the PCGS site a lot are MS (I can't access the other grades), and some coins start at MS 4, others start at like MS 40 depending on the year or coin.
     
  15. james m. wolfe

    james m. wolfe New Member

    :eek:ms4 ???????????????????
     
  16. Shamrock111

    Shamrock111 Member

    Mint State runs from 60-70
     
  17. pennsteve

    pennsteve Well-Known Member

  18. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    Technically, everything is either MS (mint state) or proof (PR or PF). So you have MS-1 all the way to MS-70 and PR-1 to PR-70. However, most people only refer to MS as being the uncirculated coins and that includes the grading companies most anywhere they publish the grades, while the lower grades retain the older grade analogy such as good (4 & 6), very good (8 & 10), etc.
     
  19. pennsteve

    pennsteve Well-Known Member

    Ok, so if my coin was XF, or AU, about what number(s) would it put it? As a matter of fact, is there anywhere I can see some kind of conversion table? lol. I started collecting coins back when they were good, fine, uncirculated etc and there was no number scale. I quit collecting years ago but am getting back into it mainly to find errors, but I never got up to speed on the "new" grading system.
     
  20. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    Although it is missing both ends, the best I can think of would be the PCGS photograde http://www.pcgs.com/photograde/#/Lincoln/Grades or any other series. It is missing P-01 (poor), and F-02 (fair) at the beginning. That should also give you a start at guessing grades.
     
  21. james m. wolfe

    james m. wolfe New Member

    :dead-horse::dead-horse::dead-horse:
     
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