What ciounts for PF 66?

How is the sheldon scale used for proofs?

Received this Pf66 Franklin with a staple scratch on it.

 

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is it slabbed? if it is i would venture as far as to say id try to send it in under their gurantee. if its not slabbed id say it is not a pf-66 coin

 

If you get a tad closer, you might be able to find the separation between silver and copper!

 

Does ANYONE have info on the sheldon scale for proofs? Surely their has to be things that make a coin PF 68 and something that makes it a pf 67,66,65, etc.

 

its the same as the ms as far as i know.

 

Remembering that Proof is a method of manufacturing, not a grade, I would use the same ANA standards (wear, dings, etc.) as those used for Mint State coins. Obviously, you will need to take into account the fields (ideally mirror or matte). And obviously any imperfections in the fields will be far more noticeable.

FYI, the 5th edition of the ANA grading standards do not address Proof grading as a separate item, they pretty much ignore the topic.

 

I imaged the whole coin and pointed out flaws. What do you think?

 

Pr 64 or 65 Imo.

 

Since proof coins, back in the day, were issued either individually or, nowadays, in sets, TPGs don't take into account circulation wear being present unless the wear is extremely noticable. I suppose if a proof coin did make its way into circulation, and God knows they have, TPGs use the same grading standards they would for circulation strikes of the same series.

And, say you have a unique pattern coin, the professional graders would used their acquired skills to examine the coin to see just how much wear the coin developed in circulation and what numerical grade would suit the coin best.

-Brian

 

This is slabbed by NGC as PF66

 

PR66 can have a few scattered hairlines or marks, no noticeable blemishes.

What you have circled in the photos would fall under that description; however, it would be nice to see the entire coin to determine if they are distracting at all.

 

It's also important to remember that when grading any coin, too much magnification is usually a bad thing. Most large coins like halves and dollars are graded without using any magnification. When they use magnification, I think the standard is 5x. Like BUncirculated stated above. A picture of the whole obverse and reverse would be needed to see if the coin deserves the grade.
From the size of the pics those look more like hairlines from a wipe or the coins moving around in the original packaging than a staple scratch.

 

what???

 

I agree.

 

I'm still lost on that one myself

 

He basically said that the OP is over magnifying and any further magnification would show the molecular makeup of the coin