PCGS Graded Coin Value

Discussion in 'What's it Worth' started by Jimmbob82, Jan 21, 2012.

  1. Jimmbob82

    Jimmbob82 Member

    Hi everyone! I just recently bought a PCGS 2011s PR69DCAM First Strike on ebay. I was wondering what the value was on the coin. I got it pertty cheap so I think i'm in the green but I was just wondering what the value was. Thanks to everyone in advance!

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  3. BUncirculated

    BUncirculated Well-Known Member

  4. Jimmbob82

    Jimmbob82 Member

    Well I did very well then considering I paid only $6.50 for the coin. I looked at the price to get a coin graded by PCGS. It was $13 plus $8 to get the first strike designation. Why would someone spend $21 to get a coin graded, then sell it for $6.50? Looks like a loss of money to me.

    -Jimmbob82
     
  5. kaosleeroy108

    kaosleeroy108 The Mahayana Tea Shop & hobby center

    that about right
     
  6. Jimmbob82

    Jimmbob82 Member

    Well atleast I'm not alone on this theroy. Kinda strange if you ask me.

    -Jimmbob82
     
  7. rodeoclown

    rodeoclown Dodging Bulls

    They likely send so many off to get graded, they're likely not paying the same prices posted on the PCGS website. But, think about it this way, if this coin had not been slabbed and graded but stuffed into a 2x2 cardboard flip with the seller claiming it's a PR69DCAM grade, would you have still bought it at $6.50 trusting that was the grade of it and value? That's the real question. They likely make up their profit in other ways if they're a dealer.
     
  8. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Because they thought/hoped it would grade a 70.

    It is a loss of money, but what choice do they have ? They sure can't sell it for more.

    There are thousands of people, dealers and collectors alike, who search through their coins picking out what they think are the best of the best. In their minds they are reasonably certain the coin will get the 70 grade. So they submit them and pay their fees. However, in most cases those submitting the coins are wrong and the coin does not grade a 70, but a 69.

    So here they are, they have spent their money but they are stuck with a coin that is only worth a few dollars. What else do they do with it but sell it for what they can get and accept their monetary loss ?
     
  9. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    When graded in bulk (100+ coins and some other conditions) it only runs about $7 per coin plus shipping.
     
  10. Jimmbob82

    Jimmbob82 Member

    Well I always wondered why people sold coins so cheap like that. Well either way I made an alright profit on the coin. Thanks everyone again!

    -Jimmbob82
     
  11. BUncirculated

    BUncirculated Well-Known Member

    Don't forget the round trip shipping and insurance ;)
     
  12. Jimmbob82

    Jimmbob82 Member


    Still that is seven hundred dollars plus shipping to and from PCGS/NGC and having the package insured. Still either way you look at it the seller still seems to lose out on money.

    -Jimmbob82
     
  13. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    Assuming that he does not turn them in at a show to avoid shipping to PCGS (quite likely), he probably pays less than $50 for shipping BOTH ways. That is only 50¢ per coin for a total of about $7.50 each. Maybe he gets 1/3 to be MS70's, I think he did quite fine. He only sells the 69's try to break even.

    Not only that, but I don't see what the buyer paid for shipping. $3 to $5 is common. Even at $3, that is about $1 toward his costs. i.e., he probably broke even.
     
  14. BUncirculated

    BUncirculated Well-Known Member

    I think rlm was factoring in the shipping on that $7/coin bulk submission.
     
  15. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Of course you are also assuming that it was somebody who did a bulk submission. If there was some way to actually check, I think you'd find that far more are the result of individuals submitting 1 to 5 coins than bulk submissions.

    But, we'll never know.
     
  16. james m. wolfe

    james m. wolfe New Member

    try an sell it an see if you make out ahead, i dont think you make out ahead, you be luckly if you make you money back :(
     
  17. Jimmbob82

    Jimmbob82 Member


    Well I'm in it for the long haul so I won't be selling it any time soon. But if I did I would have to disagree with you there. My local auctioniers will be able to get book value or more than book value. Trust me I have been at the auctions and coins very rarely go under or on book value as most of the time there are serveral collectors there that make money seem like no object. Even after the commision I would still make out alright.;)

    -Jimmbob82
     
  18. silverfool

    silverfool Active Member

    I dont see even $6 value there. I would say 90% of the coins leaving the mint are prf69. there is really no value in modern nickles that i can see.
     
  19. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Just out of curiosity, what are you calling book value ? I mean, what book, what price guide are you using to establish this book value you mention ?
     
  20. Owle

    Owle Junior Member

    Doesn't PCGS price everything they grade?

    Another question, I just sent in a number of modern gold and platinum coins, they all graded 69, except one Platinum oz. that graded PR70. Who pays the most for those, or do I have to chance it at auction?
     
  21. Jimmbob82

    Jimmbob82 Member

    The book I use is the red book and coinworld price guide since many people read both. The people that go to these auctions normally have a modern coinworld or a redbook on hand. They use the book for rare coins at the auction but the other smaller value coins they just take a guess at them. Almost every time their thier "guess" is wrong and they over pay for a coin time after time.

    -Jimmbob82
     
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