NCS, and NGC.

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by Detecto92, Jan 16, 2012.

  1. Detecto92

    Detecto92 Well-Known Member

    NCS, if you don't know is Numismatic Conversation Service. A sister of NGC.

    What I want to know is:

    1. What different things does NCS do?
    2. When should you submit a coin to NCS?
    3. Does NGC do any kind of preservation to the coin before slabbing it?


    Thanks.
     
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  3. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor

  4. Detecto92

    Detecto92 Well-Known Member

    That still doesn't answer if NGC does any cleaning to the coin before it's slabbed.
     
  5. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    They probably blow the dust off coins before putting in slabs. Past that would be a guess.
     
  6. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    The answer to your question is it depends.

    1 - does the coin need it ?

    2 - do you want it done ?

    3 - does NGC think it would help the coin ?

    Now you might think 1 and 3 are the same thing but they aren't, they are quite different things. And I have posted many times over the years, both NGC and PCGS have been known to dip coins (clean coins) even without asking the owner's permission.

    Now most people scoff at that comment, absolutely refuse to believe it. For that matter they absolutely refuse to believe that NGC and PCGS will dip coins if you request that they do so. But they do, and they have for many years, and they have publicly admitted it. That is documented.

    Something from long ago -



    PCGS and NGC Dipping Coins

    The Professional Coin Grading Service and the Numismatic Guaranty Corporation
    have confirmed that they have been dipping coins upon request. The coins are
    not marked on the slab as cleaned.

    References: Numismatic News, 8 Aug 1995, p. 1; Coin World, 18 Sep 1995,
    p. 1, 7.
     
  7. kaosleeroy108

    kaosleeroy108 The Mahayana Tea Shop & hobby center

    ncs - conservation - primary cleans and doctors coins from corrosion and extreme damage.. fire, and such

    ngc- certifies and grades error, and everything else and validates ligitmacy
     
  8. coinhead63

    coinhead63 Not slabbed yet

    I would suggest that a rare and/or valuable coin that has impairments be sent to NCS first. Their only job is to conserve coins. Doing otherwise would be akin to taking your car with a major transmission problem to a local garage that does general repairs vs. taking it to a transmission specialist. You might get the problem fixed at the first shop but the second one knows all the ins and outs of transmissions and will get it fixed right the first time.
     
  9. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Very true, they have also publicly denied it.
     
  10. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Not really. Many coins with issues should never even be sent to NCS because they will not be able to solve the problem. They can only do so much. Choosing which coins to send and which coins not to send is the true hard part.

    True, depending on who is doing the talking at the time, and who they are talking to.

    Kinda funny how that works ;)
     
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