1787 Connecticut copper colonial

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  1. hop2kent

    hop2kent New Member

    I have a 1787 Connecticut Colonial which I am having some trouble specifying which variety. It appears to me that my coin has the same reverse as the 38-GG due to the placement of the olive branch hitting at the bottom of the colon; yet the hand seems a bit higher as it is centered between the D & E rather than the N & D. It is also an off-center strike...
    If anyone could please help me to identify this more, I would greatly appreciate it!

    Thanks,
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  3. CheetahCats

    CheetahCats Colonial & Early American

    I'll take a look later tonight when I get back to my desk. :)
     
  4. hop2kent

    hop2kent New Member

    Thanks Cheetah Cats...I actually narrowed it down to a Miller 24-ff, but now I am thinking it might actually be the 24 g.5; per someone pointing out that it appears to have slight traces of hyphens before the crosses on the reverse. However, I have found mixed identifying factors; as I had found information to show and identify it as the 24-ff...but maybe those had their coin mis-marked as well. Either way, they are both great coins and rare ones....but I had listed it as a 24-ff and now question that!
    Thanks for any input and further reference...as these colonials are not my thing per say and my knowledge on them is lacking.
    Thanks....:)
     
  5. CheetahCats

    CheetahCats Colonial & Early American

    It appears indeed to be a Miller-24. The Miller-24 is only paired with g.3, g.5, and FF.

    It is not an FF because clearly your specimen is -+- INDE: -+- -+-

    It is not a g.3 because branch tip intersects closest to + rather than :

    therefore it is a g.5

    W-3075. Bowers lists it as a URS-7 (33-64 known examples to exist.)

    What rotation is the specimen? Coin or medal turn?

    - Cheetah
     
  6. hop2kent

    hop2kent New Member

    Cheetah cats...it is a coin turn...does that make it more common or change value? I am glad to have more clarity and reassurance that it is the G.5, but now I must go change my listing for it and possibly reprice (I had listed at $975 for ff)...though I dabble with coins, colonials are not my area of knowledge and so I am going by research. I think this coin, though not as rare as the ff, is still a rare coin and my pricing my not be off too much but maybe I should drop a bit....ponder I must :)
    thanks!
     
  7. CheetahCats

    CheetahCats Colonial & Early American

    I generally don't comment about pricing.

    I do strongly recommend changing the description of the specimen. The differences between the FF and g.5 are vastly significant. The g.5 is less rare and a more frequently available variety.

    Mind you, your target buying group consists of about 1500 people worldwide; about 550 in C4. But a scant percentage of the overall numismatic community, many such Pre-Federal era enthusiasts are quite knowledgeable about the significant differences in the Connecticut varieties.
     
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