When I get some money I'm gonna sign up for a NGC membership that includes 5 free gradings. I was thinking of this morgan to be one of the 5, but now I don't really think that is a good idea. Who else agrees?
Because it would cost $30 to have slabbed, I have $30 in it, and I can get a slabbed UNC morgan for $50.
I think you should save the money and invest in one that is already certified within your price range. Quite frankly, I don't think the Morgan on the picture would come back without been labeled as "harshly cleaned, dipped or damaged" from what I see. That milky look on it and the mark just in from of her face is a dead giveaway for such a grade IMO.
When I get money? Why don't you sign up for the basic one and use the money to buy coins? The coins I see aren't ready to be graded IMO
Until you get to be very good I would recommend buying them already graded, in the long run it might save you some grading lumps and lessons. Nothing wrong with buying raw, but sometimes it takes a real expert to see the difference in coin as being cleaned. And even then on some coins the experts and tpg's might disagree.
Doesn't look like anything special.. just a nice old silver morgan. I use the certifications on something with more eye appeal or something that has a shot at conditional rarity.
Like I said sometimes it takes a real expert to say. The first picture really makes it look hazy and over-dipped. The second picture makes it look nicer, but I still can not say it has not been cleaned. Also - I personally think that in the Morgan series the tpg's are a lot harder on a cleaned coin since they are common(not all dates and mint marks).
I think I will just keep it in it's current holder. I can get a 1882 MS62 morgan in a NGC slab for $63 shipped.
I'd say the only one worth slabbing and getting graded would be the CC in 1882. The 1882 is way to common and not worth sending off to get graded, unless it's an MS65 but this one clearly isn't that high of grade.
Do you know about Collectors Corner ? I have used several dealers off it since I could find the coins cheaper there. If nothing else you can compare prices from dealers with ebay or other sites. Never hurts to have more options. Other dealers I use are Harlan J Berk and Northeast Numismatics - got some decent priced coins off them at times.
Exactly. No point in getting this one graded whether its cleaned or not. I do think it looks cleaned though, in the first picture at least. If I were you and I wanted a slabbed one, I would just buy it already slabbed and hold on to both of them.
I agree with the others, this coin is not worth having slabbed. It's a circulated common date Morgan. I think you would be much better off investing that money into some grading literature and more coins. Don't try and submit coins to TPGs until you have the grading knowledge to know you are doing the right thing.
I don't have a comment on the coin, but what I would say is that if you are looking to submit coins to NGC, maybe it would be better to sign up for a year long ANA membership as I am pretty sure that gives you the ability to directly submit coins. Of course, you don't get the five free submissions with that, but it is also cheaper than doing the NGC membership and you get the Numismatist magazine for a year.
I don't think you should submit that '82 either. It does look to have been cleaned. However, it should be noted that it doesn't necessarily cost $30 to submit the coin for grading unless you're using the EarlyBird tier. If you are sending 5 or more and they are valued at less than $300 each, you can use the Economy tier which costs just $17 per coin plus shipping & insurance and the $8 handling fee. I don't know where you live, but you can also save half of the shipping & insurance by submitting them directly to NGC if you're attending one of the shows where they have a booth. For example, my membership renews in November, and I hang onto my "free grading certificate" and submit the coins at the FUN Show every year. Chris US Coins Turnaround times are approximate and not guaranteed. Estimated turnaround begins on the day coins are received at NGC. An $8 handling fee per invoice applies to all submissions in addition to the grading tiers below. [TABLE="class: infotable"] [TR="class: tableHead"] Grading Tier Fee (per coin) [TD="width: 100"]Turnaround (Est.) [/TD] [TD="width: 100"]Current Turnaround [/TD] [TD="width: 160"]Requirements [/TD] [/TR] [TD="width: 80"]Unlimited Value WalkThrough [/TD] [TD="width: 80"]$600 [/TD] [TD="width: 100"]Same-day service [/TD] [TD="width: 100"]24 hours [/TD] [TD="width: 160"]All U.S. coins. No max value. [/TD] [TD="width: 80"]High Value WalkThrough [/TD] [TD="width: 80"]$250 [/TD] [TD="width: 100"]Same-day service [/TD] [TD="width: 100"]24 hours [/TD] [TD="width: 160"]All US coins valued at $500,000 or less. [/TD] [TD="width: 80"]WalkThrough [/TD] [TD="width: 80"]$125 [/TD] [TD="width: 100"]Same-day service [/TD] [TD="width: 100"]24 hours [/TD] [TD="width: 160"]US coins valued at $100,000 or less. [/TD] [TD="width: 80"]Express [/TD] [TD="width: 80"]$60 [/TD] [TD="width: 100"]48 hours [/TD] [TD="width: 100"]3 working days [/TD] [TD="width: 160"]US coins valued at $10,000 or less. [/TD] [TD="class: tdblue, colspan: 5"]↑ All tiers above include Scratch-Resistant Holders for no additional fee.↑ [/TD] [TD="class: tdblue, colspan: 5"]↓ Upgrade to Scratch-Resistant Holders for the following tiers for an additional $5.00 per coin. ↓ [/TD] [TD="width: 80"]Early Bird [/TD] [TD="width: 80"]$30 [/TD] [TD="width: 100"]12 working days [/TD] [TD="width: 100"]12 working days [/TD] [TD="width: 160"]US coins valued at $3,000 or less. [/TD] [TD="width: 80"]Specialty Gold [/TD] [TD="width: 80"]$30 [/TD] [TD="width: 100"]5 working days [/TD] [TD="width: 100"]5 working days [/TD] [TD="width: 160"]All California fractional, $1 gold, $2.5 gold, $3 gold, $5 Indians, and all better-date US gold. Maximum value $3,000 per coin. Five (5) coin minimum [/TD] [TD="width: 80"]GoldRush [/TD] [TD="width: 80"]$25 [/TD] [TD="width: 100"]5 working days [/TD] [TD="width: 100"]6 working days [/TD] [TD="width: 160"]All dates for $5-$10-$20 Liberty; $10 Indian, $20 Saint Gaudens. Also accepting $5, $10, $25, $50 U.S. gold bullion. Maximum value $3,000. Five (5) coin minimum [/TD] [TD="width: 80"]Economy [/TD] [TD="width: 80"]$17 [/TD] [TD="width: 100"]21 working days [/TD] [TD="width: 100"]21 working days [/TD] [TD="width: 160"]All non-gold US coins valued at $300 or less per coin and $5, $10, $25, $50 US gold bullion under $300 per coin (no Colonials). Five (5) coin minimum [/TD] [TD="width: 80"]Modern Special [/TD] [TD="width: 80"]$20 [/TD] [TD="width: 100"]12 working days [/TD] [TD="width: 100"]12 working days [/TD] [TD="width: 160"]All US coins 1955 to present requiring a special label, including Releases designations, Eagle 20th and 25th Anniversaries. Five (5) coin minimum. Note: Five-coin minimum waived for America The Beautiful 5-ounce silver quarters. [/TD] [TD="width: 80"]Modern [/TD] [TD="width: 80"]$14 [/TD] [TD="width: 100"]12 working days [/TD] [TD="width: 100"]12 working days [/TD] [TD="width: 160"]All US coins 1955 to present. Five (5) coin minimum Note: Five-coin minimum waived for America The Beautiful 5-ounce silver quarters. [/TD] [/TABLE]
Wouldn't you think (unless it's imbedded into the metal itself) if the coin was cleaned they would have tried to do something about that big black mark in the field in front of liberty's face? That would be my problem with buying the coin unless for some reason it came back with a 64 or 65 blessing from NGC or PCGS. It's just too distracting of a mark be it bag or handling or even from careless handling at the mint for me.
