Id This Coin

HI ALL
I have a coin but can't show pics date 1917 obverse says georgivs del gra:brittmn:rexfid:def:ind:imp:
reverse half penny man with spear and shield sitting .Sorry that is the best I can do can't send pics.

 

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English half penny. The man on the back is a woman - Brittania.

 

Hi Jackeen
After Your Fast Reply And Info I Went To The World Coin Gallery For A Pic Of The Coin. You Were Right ON Thank You Very Much.:high5:

 

Bruce,the British halfpenny of 1917 depicts King George V,who reigned from 1910 until 1936.There hasn't been any English coins since 1707,apart from a few private pattern ECUs.

Aidan.

 

If I said that the word "British" is an English lie, would it betray my Fenian persuasions?

Let's just say my choice of words was deliberate.

 

Jackeen,I'm a Royalist of Scots descent,& King George V was a very good ruler,even though the people of the isle of Ireland were fighting among themselves during his reign.England is only one coutry out of 4 which make up the United Kingdom.

Aidan.

 

Ian - My comment was simply to clarify that I declined to use the word "British" deliberately, rather than failing to use it out of ignorance.

Aidan - Congrats on your family tree. What you are now is more important than what your ancestors were then, but if it makes you happy.

I didn't say anything about George V personally, so your defensive adulation of him strikes me as a bit misplaced. I simply declined to use a word I dislike, and used another instead. The person to whom I was speaking understood.

Getting the other fellow to understand you is the principal purpose of language.

I hope I've done so with you.

Have a nice day.

 

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Your original post said that the item was `english'..... which it isn't, no matter how much you might dislike using the word `British'.

You seem to be suggesting that the english had `ownership' of something that simply wasn't theirs to own. When you think about it, that's in contradiction to your stated political leaning. If the coin concerned circulated in Ireland as legal tender would that not make it Irish?

 

This is educational guys.Reminds me of the use of "America" over here.

 

Ian - minted in London, denomination in English, legal tender in England...

If it walks like a duck.

My objection to the word "British" is that it's a bogus supra-national concept adopted in the wake of the "Glorious Revolution" as part of an English scheme to delegitimize and ultimately eradicate the national identities of the non-English peoples of the island of Britian.

Is that reason enough?

 

I asked you if it was legal tender in Ireland too? A simple yes or no will suffice.

Oh...that's a lame duck arguement if ever there was.

Many coins have been made in England for other countries.....including the previous colonies known as the USA . These coins are no more `english' than you are.... or the people who used / still use them.

Millions of coins were minted in the US for numerous countries, including France and Australia. These coins are not 'merkin coins.

When put under close scrutiny, your claims that this particular item has duck like qualities are simply not borne out in fact. No matter what sounds you might be hearing, rest assured that there ain't no quacks to be heard from that 1/2d.

Honest answer? No.

Are you meaning the island known as Great Britain (ie Scotland Wales and England), or are you talking about the British Isles?

Most national identities are `collectives' of sub groups and cultures. The Scots and the Irish are prime examples of such collective groupings based upon clans / tribes. `British' is just an elevation of that based upon geographic reality..... as well as defacto `sovereignty' at that time.

I wonder, are Irish happy with the concept of being `european' ? Is it not yet another supra- national concept to delegitimise and ultimately eradicate the national identities of member states perpetrated by the `english'?......

The importance in this thread is not so much what either of our political likes and dislikes are but providing the original poster with the facts concerning his coin. Fact is, the OP's coin is a British coin. Not an English coin, not an Irish coin, not a Chinese coin, but a British coin. But you already know that.

 

Anyway...

In the end, I don't care what you think. Of me. Of history. Of politics.

I decline to be interrogated by you.

I decline to justify myself to you.

I decline to allow you to judge me in any way.

The OP understood me. That was my point.

As for all your other observations, irrelevent.

As for your opinions, likewise.

 

LOL so now that all UK coinage is made in Llantrisant and is Legal tender in Wales does this mean tht it is now classed as Welsh coinage Us Welsh now own all the money LOL Ian if you ask nicely I might let you use it :thumb: :thumb:

De Orc

 

Gentlemen if I new when I asked , if someone could please give me some info on this coin would have cause so much trouble I would have never asked the question . I apologize if I have opened up a can of worms and caused a problem with the fine folks here at coin talk.

 

Bah. Don't blame yourself, bruce, just because I'm a crackpot.

 

What trouble???

De Orc :hug: :hug:

 

Nothing to apologize for... you asked a perfectly legitimate question in a forum designed to discuss such questions. If anybody has anything to apologize for it is those who used the question to debate a political topic which is more appropriate for either the General Discussion or the Politics and Religion forums.

This coin is a British coin... that is fact, not opinion, based on the political realities of the time it was minted, regardless of what people believe they were or should have been, or the way people think they are or should be. If you want to argue beyond the inherent qualities of this coin and want to discuss the nature of politics or sovereignty of the place where it was minted, take it to the Politics forum please. Thank you.

 

hmmm... I guess that you don't know the answer to whether or not the coin in question was legal tender in Ireland. Sorry if the question was too difficult or too awkward for you to answer. ...then again, not really. I've just asked some pertinent questions . If you choose to sit in the corner you've painted yourself into, wear the dunce's hat, stamp your feet and otherwise sulk that's entirely up to you.

Based upon what you've said so far, I doubt if you could and I don't really need or wish to hear any more from you on this.

Pssst. This might come as a bit of a shock to you but I don't actually need your permission.

I'll simply not allow your deliberate misinformation concerning coins to go uncorrected.

What he understood by `english' lies with him. It is not an `english' coin, pure and simple.

So many people in the USA (through poor education or simply lack of relevance to them) seem to think that the UK IS England. You do the `non- english' nationalities a complete disservice by perpetuating that falsehood.

Well, I don't bear grudges and I can admire someone who tells it like it is. With that in mind I can honestly and wholeheartedly say that your observations and opinions are totally priceless.

 

This political discussion has gone far enough - probably too far since personal attacks and insults have started popping up.

Anyone who wants to continue it, is free to start a new thread in the General Discussion or the Religion, Politics & World Affiars forums.