Crossgrade challange #1

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by bahabully, Jan 5, 2012.

  1. bahabully

    bahabully Junior Member

    Well, after many years I finally decided to take a healthy portion of my old 2nd tier and 1st tier (anacs) slabs...
    crack em'...
    ... and then send them in to NGC in order to align my collection within NGC and PCGS.
    ... even sent in one NGC crackout just to see what the same coin would come back as.

    Most of these were purchased at a nice discount vs. NGC/PCGS slabbed coins, and I spent a "lot" of time searching for coins on the 'bay that I felt were either undergraded or appropriately graded or mis-attributed. Most of these were purchased 5-12 years ago,, pickin's have definitely dwindled over the past couple of decades.


    There will be 22 of these coming at cha'... have fun !, and lets see if you can spot the winners and losers.

    I will preface this evolution by saying that I am very impressed by NGC's grading and am looking forward to compiling my next submission.
    I am by far no expert, but am a hard worker at improving myself, and am as actively practiced as a lazy collector can be.
    That said, for the most part, these came back as I had expected except for one or two.

    I'll follow RLM and post two of these at a time behind his updates.

    Your mission- Guess what NGC graded them as... you can also offer comment regarding what you think they grade in "your book", which is always an interesting aside.

    Have fun !

    The first two are:
    1840 O w/drapery - Older generation ANACS slab - VF30 (Cleaned)
    1857 - Blue ANACS slab - VF30 DDO (Corroded)
     

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  3. jcakcoin

    jcakcoin New Member

    Quarter- VF25 Details

    Cent- VF30 Details
     
  4. tristen1230

    tristen1230 New Member

    VF-20 on 1940 Coin
    VF-35 on 1857 Coin

     
  5. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    From NGC, all you will get is details. I think both will go VF details.
     
  6. zach24

    zach24 DNSO 7070 71 pct complete

    Agreed!
     
  7. Owle

    Owle Junior Member

    So they will be worth more in an ANACS numerical graded holder than an NGC details holder in most cases. I would tell NGC that if they do not give the coins an explicit number to not cross them.

    An example:

    http://www.greatcollections.com/Coin/29931/1855-S-Liberty-Double-Eagle-ANACS-AU-58-Details

    The coin was "AU details" at NGC, "Tooled" at PCGS. ANACS was the right holder for that coin. Analysis is the kiss of death for coin values in some cases.
     
  8. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    I'll guess the 1840 will come back the same. VF-30 and cleaned. I'm thinking they may show it as VF details.

    I'll guess the 1857 at VF-30 may me 35 with nothing about being corroded. They may miss the DDO unless it's noted on the form and it may cost more to have it shown on the slab. I'm guessing it's an S-4?
     
  9. bahabully

    bahabully Junior Member

    Here are the first two...

    Solid no problems coins imo.

    Both incorrectly graded by ANACS imo.. I was very ahppy to pick these up off the 'bay, and really happy when in hand.

    The 40o has no hairlines at all, just honest wear from what I can see. Looks like a very old light cleaning (as almost "all" coins this old have been exposed to at some point)... nicely retoned, a bit lighter reverse probably triggered the cleaned classification from anacs... I don't think it was warranted... a nice coin.

    The 57 has 3-4 ultra smaill flecks of carbon on the reverse between 5 and 6 o'clock on the ribbon. No pitting anywhere, just the few carbon spots.
    Not corroded imo, just lived in a bit.

    From what I can see the 57 FS105 is the only one NGC has graded.. I think it's SNOW-3 ? Cool to have a 1of1 with 1 graded.

    Definitely a couple of 'bay winners here, unfortunately I didn't do so well on all of them..........
     

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  10. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    Out of the 4 you have posted so far the only one that bugs me in the 1857 FE. The first picture certainly makes it look like it has issues. Glad it worked out for you.
     
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