1980 Lincoln Penny Dropped Letter

If the obverse die was not swapped out or polished off then it will have clash marks of the memorial building as well.

 

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So you think I disagree with people just for the sake of disagreeing? That is a really, really, really stupid thing to say.
If that was true, I'd be on Craigslist forums with all the other yahoos instead of a serious forum like this.

I'm saying that a typical die is a flat field with the design that is struck onto the coin incuse on it. Unless, of course, you have a coin where some features are meant to be struck onto the coin incuse (like $2.5 and $5 gold Indians).
Modern dies are hubbed from a master die. This master die is carved in relief, the fields are the lowest point and correspond to the highest point on the die that is hubbed from it.

Looks at a picture of any US penny, nickel, dime, quarter, etc dies. They do not have any sort of ridges. It is just the fields and design elements incuse into them.

If you can't get that, then there is no point wasting more time typing at you.

 

SHEESE !!!!! You have said this same thing over and over and problably not reading a word that others have wrote on here. What in the heck do you think is in between these incuse areas you keep writing about. I know all about this type terrain since I live here in these beautiful hills of Kentucky. where I live it is called hills and valleys , this also applies to a coin dies design. the dies have hills and valleys . here's a really easy example for you and if you can not understand this one then I surrender and give up. look at the memorial building on our cent coins. on the coin die for the cents the pillars are incuse on the die while the colums between the pillars are in relief on the die. if it was like you are trying to say with everything being incuse the die would only strike out a raised round design like half of a ball. now here's the test , let's see if you can agree to anything I wrote in this post or is everything I wrote not true.. LOL

 

Hills and valleys. It sounds like you are creating a whole new terminology. What should we call it?

 

Bee-S

 

I can't agree to much of what you write simply because it tends to be off, sometimes bordering on ridiculous, and sometimes mostly self-serving rather than on topic. You do seem to write things that makes sense sometimes, but not more often than someone making guesses on a multiple choice test.

I think you may be mistaking "hills and valleys" for the field and incuse features. Think of it like sea level. On a coin die, all the features to be struck onto a coin are below sea level. But there is nothing above sea level. Anything that looks like a ridge does so only because the area around it is below. It is not actually ABOVE the "sea level" point.

All you gotta do is look at a picture of a die.

 

all I was trying to do is to explain to you that some clash marks are raised up and some clash marks are sunken in on the clashed die coins. if every part of a die face was incuse below what you refer to as sea level then all clash marks made on coins would have to be incuse also. talk about trying to beat a old dead donkey , you need to look at yourself before trying to down someone else. I told you the truth when I said some die clashes on coins can either be raised or sunken in depending on which part of the dies clashes together. I don't think anyone could explain anything to you so I surrender and you can have it your way. :dead-horse::dead-horse::rollling::rollling::dead-horse:

 

nice die clash yes a great find...

 

this terminoligy has been around since the beginning of coin collecting. maybe you are so young you have never heard of this or maybe you have not read many coin magazines.

 

Been around since coin collecting but used for map making.
I'd like to see where it is used to describe the makings of a die.
You should read this info, It may change your thinking on 'hills and valleys'

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coining_(mint)