I can not find this DD listed anywhere???

I have checked the CONECA master listing and the Red Book! Did I find something new?

1984-D Olympic Dollar Coin

 

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This sure looks like a doubled die coin.

 

That's some dramatic doubling!

Don't see it listed anywhere in my CPG, though my edition has recently been outdated. Don't see any history of sales for a DDO for this date/mintmark. I certainly don't know enough about modern coinage to begin to tell you what you have.

Whatever it is, it's certainly a terrific find! Some of the strongest doubling I've seen on a modern coin!

-Brian

 

Unless the very little I know is wrong it is! :smile

 

SUBMIT IT!!!!!!
While you can. So you have the first(?) example known and can get quick $$

 

How?? Or to who? Forgive me I am a noob!!

 

Are you all searching your coins to find one like this?

:yes:

 

wow very impressive DDO. I recently found a DDR on a slabbed Franklin. Turned an 85 dollar half into a 300 dollar half!

 

Awesome coin! The doubling apears to be very clear. Send it off to slab!

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interesting.

Not in the 5th edition CPG.

 

Where should this type of coin be sent?

 

PCGS.com or NGC.com Those are the 2 most highly regarded coin grading services in the field. There easy to use also. Just don't send it to ANACS or ICG. Also, Bring it to a local coin dealer to get it sent off becuase unless you have a subscription to either of those to (PCGS or NGC) you need an authorized dealer to send it in. Hope this helps!

 

Forgive my ignorance, but wouldn't this need to be confirmed and attributed (if in fact it is a new discovery) first?

 

You can contact them through phone/email for questions on attribution. I've done it countless times. They're some friendly folks.

Just for confirmation, you may want to have the coin looked at by your local coin dealer. Hopefully they can give you a little guidance through the submittion process, or possible submit it for you altogether.

-Brian

 

I'm surprised it doesn't seem to be mentioned anywhere because it has been known since 1984. (It was published in Coin World at that time.) It was first found and called a doubled die back then, then it was decided that it was actually a case of MDD. Later it was called a doubled die again. There seems to be some question as to just what it is. The problem comes from the fact that those letters are incuse and not raised. When the coin was struck the letters are formed by raised letters on the die like a hub and when the die sifts it creates a second rounded image made with a splitting of the serifs just like the image on a doubled die die.

So is it a DD or is it MDD? I don't know, but like I said I would still have thought it would have been mentioned.

 

I'll be looking more closely at mine tonight.....

b

 

If the lettering is incused, then its maching doubling. Below is a good example of machine doubling on incused lettering.



For a good example of a true doubled die on incused lettering, visit James Wiles Variety Vista page: http://www.varietyvista.com/1984WDDO001 gold.htm

However, having said that, do not be discouraged by listening to me. Submit the coin for examination.

 

Yes that lettering on the 84 Olympic dollar IS incuse. I like 19Lyds images. You can clearly see the rounded relief of both images and the splitting of the serifs. If that was raised lettering we would instantly say doubled die, but incuse it's MDD. At least we think so. 19Lyd, has that coin definitely been declared to be MDD?

 

Looks like DD to me

I have 2 specimens that I have just looked at more closely (I've had them since 1984) because I was investigating RPMs on the Philly dollars (both '83 and '84) when I was actually shocked when looking at the D dollars through a 10x magnifier. Here's why I think they are DDs: No. 1 (at least on mine): 'IN' shows doubling. No. 2: "LIBERT" shows doubling to various degrees, with the upper left portion of the B and E appear 'shaved'; the upper portion much narrower on the top surface than the lower portion. No. 3: If you flip the coin over, there is no distortion of 'STATES' which is opposite the date on the obverse. In fact, the reverse shows no doubling whatever. If I understand Machine Doubling there would be corresponding effects on the reverse because it is the coin that is moving, not the die; the double die is created when the die itself rotates while being struck, correct?

 

Machine doubling does NOT require like machine doubling on the reverse.

The OP's coin is indeed machine doubling.

Refer to this page: http://www.varietyvista.com/1984WDDO001%20gold.htm for references to hub doubling on incused lettering.