So I posted a thread about my first MS Franklin, and got some positive feedback. One gentleman in particular mentioned that it might have some doubling on the EPU (reverse). With his help I contacted a verification company. They agreed that there was doubling on the EPU, and I am considering sending it to them to get verified + quality pictures from different angles. Upon return, I would then re-submit it to PCGS. Here is a link to the original thread, and I've updated with a couple of pictures. Thoughts/opinions greatly appreciated. Here is a link to the original thread: http://www.cointalk.com/t197316-2/
Sure looks like doubling to me, but I think you need someone who knows what the value of such would be to decide if its worth sending in again to get it on the slab. Btw, why would you need to send it to another party? I would think that if you believe its doubled, you could just send it in directly to PCGS. Sorry if I am not more help.
All the information needed to send it in with a variety attribution can be found right here. http://www.pcgs.com/gradinglist.html
Ahhh I see. I was kind of hoping for a response like this. Both parties were very pleasant via PM, but it did dawn on me, that I do not know this party whatsoever. I'll prolly just send them into PCGS via my local dealer, and if it comes back as doubled, I'll send the guy that spotted the doubling a token of appreciation through the mail. Do any of you have a clue how much this could add to value? Low expectations here. ~Jason
Looking at PCGS's set composition for the variety set, there isn't a 50' variety available yet. I guess the next check would be seeing if there is a Fivaz/Stanton variety for this date. You could have a Pop 1 coin. As for value, I have no clue. http://www.pcgs.com/SetRegistry/SetComposition.aspx?c=2180 http://www.pcgs.com/SetRegistry/SetComposition.aspx?c=2179
In other words, it doesn't look like PCGS has ever holdered a DDR 1950 Franklin. I could be wrong though because I can't find out for sure. Anyone with a Cherrypicker's Guide might be able to look for something.
Hmm this is pretty exciting. I see a few DDRs on eBay right now, and they have a ton of bids. No clue as to value, but it will have a new home in my sdb at my bank. I'll take it with me in a couple weeks, when I plan on meeting with a respected dealer here in Maryland.
If its not a variety they attribute then they will not holder it as a variety. I'd make sure to call them before submitting it.
I see the doubling where you're talking about; however, I don't see why this received an FBL. I clearly see a bagmark crossing through the top set of bell lines, just left of the crack, and another one towards the eagle. Can't see too much of the bottom set of lines because of the flash, but I can make out another mark on the bottom set of lines towards the HA in HALF.
There's a reason they have never slabbed one, it's because they (PCGS) do not recognize that variety. PCGS will only attribute and note on the slab the varieties that are listed in the Red Book. If it aint in the Red Book, then it doesn't count as far as PCGS is concerned.
So you are telling me all the varieties listed in the links I provided above are listed in the Red Book? http://www.pcgs.com/varietyfaq.html
Nope I'm not. They have apparently added a bunch they will slab. But that won't slab that Frankie that much is for sure. They will slab - Fivaz-Stanton Varieties from the Cherrypickers Guide, Fourth Edition Vol. II and Fifth Edition Vol. I And that 1950 Frankie is not in the CPG.
Which is why I stated that someone with a CPG could be of more help. I do not own one so I could not help. But yes PCGS recognizes multiple varieties now and not just your run of the mill Red Book ones.
I appreciate it guys. I will be taking it to a reputable dealer for it to be inspected by hand. BU, you were right on about the FBL. This was pointed out to me in the initial thread about this half. No doubt it would never pass the NGC standards for FBL. Even if the DDR is not recognized, I believe it is an interesting piece.
From my reading of PCGS's information it looks like they would NOT recognize this under the variety submission category. Their link to the recognized variety listings does not include anything for Franklin halves and does not mention that they do Cherrypickers varieties. So if they were to recognize this as a DDR it would have to be under the mint errors category which would cost you an extra $50. So you had better be darn sure that it is a DDR before you send it in or you will just be throwing away $50. Even if it is a DDR I don't know if it would increase the value by $50. Unless he is respected as a dealer in errors and varieties he may still not be able to tell you what you have. As many people will tell you a LOT of dealers know nothing about errors and/or how to recognize them. They may know how to recognize the well known very popular ones like the 1955 and 72 DDO cents, but can't tell MDD from a doubled die on any other coin.
