Here's an interesting dug coin ...

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by ewemule, Dec 30, 2011.

  1. ewemule

    ewemule Junior Member

    So far it appears to date from 1770 - 1776. It's diameter is much smaller and I don't think a date is possible. Take a look.
    Maybe a 1776 Machins Mills IMG_4771.JPG IMG_4769.JPG ? Regular counterfeit ? About all I have to go on is where letters are in relation to the figures.
    Obverse is GEORGIVS III and the beginning of REX. Reverse has Brita.
    Marty
     
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  3. kookoox10

    kookoox10 ANA #3168546

    Looks to be a Connecticut Copper, nice find!
     
  4. ewemule

    ewemule Junior Member

    It weighs 7.6g or 117.285 grains. That gives it the right weight for a counterfeit. But, I guess I can't rule out wear for its low weight.
    Marty
     
  5. Vess1

    Vess1 CT SP VIP Supporter

    Wear can make a significant difference in weight. I was real surprised at the difference when I got my scale. That looks like it's been in the ground since 1770. lol But who knows. It's pretty worn. There's a good shot it's the real thing. Congrats. I would have loved finding that.
     
  6. ewemule

    ewemule Junior Member

    I've been looking at different coins that are a close match. Farthing seems to be too light in weight 5.6g. I will guess that it is a halfpenny of some kind. The forehead of the Machins Mills 1776 looks very much like it. Another thing I'm looking at is where the dates would fall in relation to the figure on reverse. I'm not sure but I may be able to make out the top of an 8 or 9. It may only be crud. Maybe a super closeup. Also thinking of asking a local coin dealer if they may have something to compare it to.
    Thanks for your input !
    Marty
     
  7. Numismat

    Numismat World coin enthusiast

    You definitely have a contemporary counterfeit. As for Machin Mills, it's a tough call. That straight line of the forehead to the end of the nose is found on various types of non-regal issues, not necessarily Machin Mills pieces.
     
  8. ewemule

    ewemule Junior Member

    That's encouraging. The forehead to nose is what led me to the 75 -76 age. What makes a Machin Mills ? Do they have a particular weight ? Diameter ? I'm going to look at some more non-regals.
    Thank you ! Happy New Year !!
    Marty
     
  9. Numismat

    Numismat World coin enthusiast

    There are a combination of characteristics to identify one of the known Machin Mills types. Try to get a hold of the Vlack publication on these if you can.
     
  10. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Unless you can nail it down to a specific variety known to made at Machins Mills I would think it is just a contemporary counterfeit
     
  11. Bisquitlips

    Bisquitlips Junior Member

    Counterfeit or not, I would have loved to have dug that one.

    Congratulations!
     
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