Help with this NGC Grade? Normal? Error?

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by 2DMoon, Dec 30, 2011.

  1. 2DMoon

    2DMoon New Member

    I got this back from NGC as part of my 25th Anniversary Set submission and don't really understand it. Is this a normal grade? If so, what does it mean? If not, any recommendations what I should do with it?

    http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/207/ms697.jpg/
     
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  3. james m. wolfe

    james m. wolfe New Member

    :eek: what is ms69 7 ??? :eek:
     
  4. valente151

    valente151 Mr. AU64, Jr.

    Try putting the serial number in here:
    http://www.ngccoin.com/certlookup/index.aspx

    That will tell you what they really meant to note. Either MS69 or MS67. Then email NGC with a pic and they will probably fix the slab for free.
     
  5. Hobo

    Hobo Squirrel Hater

    Probably just a typo.
     
  6. jcakcoin

    jcakcoin New Member

    Are they grading on a 700 point scale now?
     
  7. Angyst

    Angyst Member

    Don't qoute me on this as I'm probably wrong but I believe that's could be the coin grade and box number your.coin was from. I can't remember if it was first strikes or early release that had the first 25000 coins given a special label that would indicate which box of 1 through 25 that coin came from on the label also I'm sorry if this is hard to follow I'm typing this out on my phone
     
  8. Angyst

    Angyst Member

    Correction 1 through 50
     
  9. 2DMoon

    2DMoon New Member

    Thanks for the responses and suggestions. Here's the NGC page for this coin: http://www.ngccoin.com/certlookup/CertResults.aspx?CertNumber=2568009-023 As you can see, the grade really is listed as MS 69 7, which seems pretty odd, and the same grade shows up on the online results for that particular order. I guess since all three show "MS 69 7" they really meant to assign that grade. I won't complain, since it is apparently just under 10 times more perfect than the standard MS 70 (maybe they used 50x magnification on mine? :p)!

    None of the other coins from that same submission had a third number, 7 or otherwise, so it all seems a bit odd.
     
  10. jcakcoin

    jcakcoin New Member

    I would keep it, and not send it back to NGC. It would be kinda cool to have an error slab in a collection
     
  11. james m. wolfe

    james m. wolfe New Member

    are you going to call or write them an ask why they did that ??? :hail:
     
  12. PittsburghMom

    PittsburghMom Active Member

    Wouldn't it be neat if you had one of those 2007 Eagles that got used in 2008?! :)
     
  13. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    This was discussed some time ago. And while I can't recall the exact particulars the 7 had something to do with that specific coin. And putting it on the slab was intentional, but it has nothing to do with the grade.
     
  14. brg5658

    brg5658 Well-Known Member

    I don't think so Doug, I think it's a mechanical error -- or in layman's terms, it is a typographical error on the printed label. You can call NGC to verify, but I'm 99% sure it was not intended to be on the label.

    NGC is very strict with labeling, and the ONLY part of a label printed in that bold font is the strike (MS, PF, SP), the numerical grade (1-70), modifiers for grade (+), modifiers for eye appeal (★), and modifiers for appearance of surfaces (Cameo, Ultra Cameo, PL, DPL). There is no explanation for why an extra "7" would be floating on this line of the holder label.

    EDIT -- If I'm wrong (which I very well could be) I'd love to see a link to an explanation. If this was intentional it is completely inconsistent with their other practices.
     
  15. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    I don't think it could be that, Doug. I just checked every line item, 001-025, and no others have any additional number next to the grade. I think it is just a typographical error.

    Chris
     
  16. BUncirculated

    BUncirculated Well-Known Member

  17. brg5658

    brg5658 Well-Known Member

    Sorry, but that's not what this is. AND, that descriptor is given it's own line on coins, not just hanging on the end of a label after the grade. I'm still convinced it is a simple typographical error.
     
  18. BUncirculated

    BUncirculated Well-Known Member

    Which is why I removed it.
     
  19. PittsburghMom

    PittsburghMom Active Member

  20. BUncirculated

    BUncirculated Well-Known Member

    I'm quite sure that isn't the explanation.

    Neither NGC or PCGS puts a double number like that meaning obverse is one grade while the reverse is the same or another grade.

    They take the level of both sides and place 1 overall grade on the label.

    Besides, the member from that site, Brawndo, said they spoke to NGC about it, and it's an error on the label and they are willing to reholder the coin if the person wishes.
     
  21. PittsburghMom

    PittsburghMom Active Member

    Agreed... Once I read further down I realized that NGC was calling it a typo. I've already modified my post. :)
     
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