what kind of doubling?

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  1. zcieslak

    zcieslak New Member

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  3. james m. wolfe

    james m. wolfe New Member

    :hail: is that on a cent???
     
  4. zcieslak

    zcieslak New Member

    no it is not a cent. It is a dime
     
  5. Hobo

    Hobo Squirrel Hater

    All trees and no forest. A good photo of the entire coin would be helpful.
     
  6. zcieslak

    zcieslak New Member

    how would a whole picture help when I want to know what type of doubling that is? I'm new to this but if I ask what kind of tree it is and send you a picture of the whole forest how would that help?
     
  7. rockdude

    rockdude Coin Collector

    How about a picture of the date then.. All I see is a picture of all the polishing lines. Maybe a few shots from other angles also.
    Thanks and welcome to the forum.
     
  8. cpm9ball

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    I think what he means is that if you were standing with your nose right against the tree, you wouldn't be able to see the grizzly standing on the opposite side.

    Chris
     
  9. justafarmer

    justafarmer Senior Member

    Sometimes it is easier to tell the variety of tree by its leaves or the fuit it bears as opposed to zooming in and looking at the bark.
     
  10. rascal

    rascal Well-Known Member

    I have a 2007 P dime that looks very similar to your coin. The one I have looks to be struck from a partially filled die , damaged die or maybe both. the raised lines on these coins is from some some type of metal or dust fragments probably mixed with grease that stuck to the fields of the die. my coin also shows some large struck thru areas as well. what is the date on your dime ?
     
  11. zcieslak

    zcieslak New Member

    thank you rascal my dime is a 2008 P
     
  12. Hobo

    Hobo Squirrel Hater

    I don't mean to start WW3 but can you explain to us how something "stuck to the fields of the die" can cause "raised lines" on a coin?
     
  13. rascal

    rascal Well-Known Member

    As you know I'm not much good at trying to explain things , I'll give it a try and maybe someone else may be able to explain it better. on these dies that gets the greasy mixture of junk on the surface of them tiny straight lines of the build up will form on the die due to the air pressure trying to excape when the dies strike the coins.. this stuff get's pushed into the coins making the shallow sunken in lines and this causes the areas between the lines to look to be raise up. I hope I explained it so you can understand what i tried to tell you.
     
  14. Hobo

    Hobo Squirrel Hater

    Are you saying that die flow lines are caused by air flow, not metal flow? That's a new one on me.

    The reason for my question was this - anything raised on the die (e.g., something "stuck to the fields of the die") would cause an incused image on the coin, not raised lines as you originally stated.
     
  15. rascal

    rascal Well-Known Member

    well we were not talking about die flow lines , I was trying to explain what some of us calls a contaminated die to you which is a different animal. with this type coins even down inside of the details such as letters and numbers the heavy lines is also visible . some of these coins even have some of the details partially filled in with this junk. You are entitled to your opinion and it's perfectly ok to think the way you want to.

    Edit; instead of saying a contaminated die I should have said a dirty and grease covered die.
     
  16. rockdude

    rockdude Coin Collector

    They are lines caused when they clean up the dies, thus they are called 'die polish lines'. Or another reason could be Planchet striations.
     
  17. ldhair

    ldhair Clean Supporter

    It is helpful to see all of the coin. I can't tell anything from the images shown.
     
  18. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    please, back up a touch and picture the whole date.

    As stated, just too close to really see.

    But, interesting pictures.

    40X?
     
  19. rascal

    rascal Well-Known Member

    Here is a few images I got of my old junker. The OP can see if this coin is similar to his. the coin I have here has a really weird looking mintmark and the roughness of the die can also be seen on top of the letters and date. I don't know why I wanted to keep this coin but I did. F 1.jpg F 2.jpg F 3.jpg
     
  20. rockdude

    rockdude Coin Collector

    Your pictures are of a dime and so is the OP's. What are you trying to show us?
     
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